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Date:      Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:54:26 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.org>
Cc:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: OPIE breakage: backout & patch for review
Message-ID:  <20030216185426.GB52253@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <200302161548.h1GFmKaX033271@grimreaper.grondar.org>
References:  <20030216115920.GA588@nagual.pp.ru> <200302161548.h1GFmKaX033271@grimreaper.grondar.org>

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On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 03:48:20PM +0000, Mark Murray wrote:
> "Andrey A. Chernov" writes:
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:06:36 +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > > "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru> writes:
> > > > Admins with no /etc/opieaccess AFFECTED!
> > > 
> > > Admins with no /etc/opieaccess IDIOTS for not running mergemaster!
> > 
> > Moreover, admins WITH old /etc/opieaccess (i.e. without your line)
> > are affected too! Local logins becomes mysteriosly disabled for their 
> > users.
> 
> With a suitable "HEADS UP!" and appropriate changes to the documentation,
> might is be possible to move _all_ policy control into PAM, instead of
> having it split between OPIE and PAM?

Nope.  What about opieized, but not pamized applications?
OPIE needs to act on FreeBSD like it does on every other Unix platform.
It really does seem like DES is chaning existing practice.

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