Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:44:14 -0700 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com> To: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape, 3.x, and -DWANT_AOUT Message-ID: <375ACF8E.B89EA198@3-cities.com> References: <19990606133056.L30927@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <375A921B.AC90E8BA@3-cities.com> <19990606195241.P30927@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>
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Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 08:22:03AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Am I right in thinking that before I can run Netscape 4.x on a FreeBSD > > > 3.x system, that system must have been compiled with "-DWANT_AOUT"? > > > > > > Or does ports/www/netscape46-navigator work on a wholly Elf system? > > > > I have been sort of waiting for someone to answer that. I am running > > 3.2-stable and I didn't use "-DWANT_AOUT" in the buildworld. > > Did you use "make world" from a pre-existing 2.2.x system? Well, that is where the problem is. It didn't start out as a 2.2.x system but there were a number of build worlds before 3.2-release was created. I think this system started out as a 3.1-release and then upgraded to 3.1-stable. The old HD, which was 70% full, was an educational mistake. I upgraded to current and found I was trying to run 4.0-current. My system didn't fully appreciate that situation. There really wasn't anything important in the system, so I pulled the drive, replaced it with a 13GB Maxtor, and installed the 3.1-release from the CD's onto a 4GB partition. It didn't run as a 3.1-release very long. That is where I remember starting the 3.x-stable chain. I didn't remove anything but did build worlds of 3.1-stable when they were still creating the aout directory by default. That was eventually changed and it was removed from /usr/obj/... tree but I probably still have remnants behind. I noticed when you needed to add "-DWANT_AOUT" because the buildworld time dropped around 1000 seconds. The change in the wallclock time was on the order of 3:25 to 2:xx. About this time, as a test, the motherboard was replaced with a Asus P2B-B and a Celeron 433. The HD drive speed went from PIO 4 to UDMA 33. I haven't been using the other system as much as I anticipated and the Asus setup is running quite nicely in the FreeBSD box. I can see the difference between PC-66 memory and PC-100 on two comparable systems running "setiathome" and that could rearrange things. I probably need to create the aout files and will have to figure out how to add aout option to the buildworld as a default. Everything else has been almost KISS simple and I don't expect anything to change. Adding the aout option back to a buildworld on the current system will probably raise the time to around an hour. Kent > > I had a fair amount of cruft on mine, so I decided it was simpler to take > a backup of all my important stuff, and then install from a release I cut > myself. This release was built with NO_AOUT defined. > > > There are somethings that need "compat22" and I don't have that in my > > kernel either. > > Do you mean the compat22 package? I don't have that installed. > > > BTW, mergemaster is a wonderful tool. I tried doing the diff thing from > > your buildworld write up but they were changing the system faster than I > > could upgrade it. There was something that didn't quite work right on my > > system during the transition from 3.1-stable to beta to 3.2-stable and I > > couldn't keep up. You have this "kind of" broken system and you don't > > know what these change were fixing and had to try them. Someone > > eventually told me about mergemaster and I found that I had a life > > again. What ever was broken was magically fixed at 3.2-release + 1 week. > > Couldn't agree more, mergemaster is very useful. > > N > -- > [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, > non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs > the links. > -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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