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Date:      Mon, 1 May 2006 20:43:09 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Maslan <maslanbsd@gmail.com>, Allen <slackwarewolf@comcast.net>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Subject:   Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion
Message-ID:  <20060501184309.GB19811@freebie.xs4all.nl>
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote..
> In <20060501180745.GC19342@freebie.xs4all.nl>, Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl> typed:
> > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +0000, Maslan wrote..
> > > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> wrote:
> > > >Allen <slackwarewolf@comcast.net> writes:
> > > >> If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for
> > > >> doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the
> > > >> university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris, are
> > > >> straight BSD.
> > > >
> > > >Wrong.  Solaris is SysV with some BSD bits tacked on.
> > > >
> > > >DES
> > > >--
> > > >Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@des.no
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > 
> > > That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd.
> > > www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos
> > 
> > Be specific:  SunOS 3.x and 4.x are BSD.  The later ones are called
> > Solaris 1.x IIRC
> > Solaris 2.x also calls itself SunOS, just take a close look at the boot
> > messages.  It is as DES already pointed out a SysV derivative
> 
> SunOS 5.x was the OS. Solaris 2.x was the OS plus the windowing
> system. So when you booted a system running Solaris 2.x, you were
> greated with SunOS 5.x banenrs. Common usage was that SunOS 5 systems
> were called "Solaris", and SunOS 4 systems were called SunOS,
> regardless of how Sun labelled the distribution media.

Well.. Sun at some point took 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 into the Solaris naming
scheme.  Just confusing to a lot of people.

> > wikipedia stinks too often to be taken as gospel...
> 
> The entry for Solaris largely agrees with my recollection of
> events. It's been long enough that I'm a bit hazy on the details, but
> there's nothing in it I know to be wrong.

I meant wikipedia in general, not this one in particular.  Its a bit like
people claiming "Bill Gates invented the internet".  Or Al Gore for that
matter ;)  

-- 
Wilko Bulte				wilko@FreeBSD.org



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