Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:08:11 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> To: yonib@ladpc.gov.il Cc: FREEBSD-HACKERS@FreeBSD.ORG, FREEBSD-QUESTIONS@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: token-ring, windoze, etc.. Message-ID: <199603041808.LAA06209@phaeton.artisoft.com> In-Reply-To: <199603042030.OAA34561@pituach.ta.ladpc.gov.il> from "yonib@ladpc.gov.il" at Mar 4, 96 02:21:35 pm
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> I sent this mail yesterday to the FREEBSD_QUESTIONS so i'm sorry if > someone has to read it again. Few of us read/respond to mail on Sunday. I didn't respond because the answers are FAQ's or the questions don't make sense. > I've installed freebsd on my pentium 90 and am having fun. > I have 3 questions that will help me kick out my windows partition > and not touch it unless i have to. > > a) is there freebsd support for token ring (i have olicom token ring > card). my windows & netscape work with winsock.dll Token Ring isn't supported. No one who wants a driver and has a test bed has so far been willing to write the necessary code. Those who do have test beds are trying to get rid of token ring at their site and don't need yet another instance of a legacy system. > b) is there support for novell disks (over the same token ring) Do you mean mounting the disks as local file systems? No, this is not supported; it is unlikely to be supported, since the NetWare FS relies on having a lot of crap in memory for trustee (~1M of RAM per 100M of disk) and directory hash and other calculation. It has no concept of cache locality. Do you mean FreeBSD as a client? There is a Linux client FS on the Samba FS site. Because of the difference in authentication model between UNIX systems (user authenticates, many users possible) and NetWare (connection authenticates; one connection per machine), it is difficult to resolve the multiple user question. When I was at Novell, it took us ~18 man years to resolve the problem (6 engineers over 3 years) and it was never resolved satisfactorily. The Linux SMBFS and NetWare Client FS are both unsatisfactory. Do you mean FreeBSD as a server? Contact "Puzzle Systems"; they sell source code and precompiled servers for a lot of platforms; you could ask for a port, or use an x86 UNIX version under an ABI (this would probably require work on the ABI). Note that the "login" and "slist" and "nlist" programs are all part of the server distribution from Novell, so Puzzle can't provide these. You have to have at least one *real* NetWare server to have legal copies of these programs. Note also that the Puzzle code does not support NDS; it can only handle bindery requests (so it's a 3.x server, not a 4.x), and as such, it can not be used in a pure 4.x installation -- so SAP traffic is still a real problem. > c) what's the latest on WINE (is it stable? what can be run on it?) You should read the WINE FAQ. Look for it at ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/ WINE still can't run most code, and still reports false statistics for interface coverage by using (N/(N+1)) to get the percentage of covered interfaces (ie: it always counts only one failure for N successes, since it stops after the first failure). TWIN (the program from Willows) is reported to be sufficiently ported to run Microsoft Excel and most other Windows programs, so you should probably use that instead until WINE improves. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.
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