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Date:      Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:46:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Lars Eggert <larse@ISI.EDU>, n0go013 <ttz@blahdeblah.demon.co.uk>, current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, not on list - please copy <hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [ GEOM tests ] vinum drives lost
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0210041342080.17529-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20021004163315.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, John Baldwin wrote:

> 
> >> 
> >> Oh, you mean like KSE on Alpha?
> > 
> > What existing functionality on the alpha does KSE stop?
> 
> So you agree that requiring vinum users to turn off GEOM is ok?  Part
> of adding a new feature is providing proof of concept that it works
> for more than just one tiny case.  Also, if you actually have to make
> it work on multiple cases, then you have to learn enough about other
> cases to better enable you to make better-informed design decisions
> that take other cases into account.  One KSE works on i386, what are
> multithreaded ports like, oh, X, supposed to do when compiling with
> -lpthread doesn't work?

I'm not making KSE the default. The discussion is about default
settings.

The ports of KSE to other architectures will be rather minor
but it's pointless to do it until the MI parts settle down.


It's not worth more discussion than this. If we ned to turn off GEOM
to run vinum then ok, it's not a major problem. I think it's the GEOM
author's job to make it work, but if core doesn't tjink he needs to
bother, that's just a reflection on FreeBSD, not me.




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