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Date:      Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:41:43 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC 
Message-ID:  <710.979504903@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>  of "Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:42:31 %2B0100." <30725.979497751@critter> 

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> I think it's the time to throw i386 over the railing and lower the
> waterline a fair bit on -current.

Modulo giving developers and the user community a few weeks to comment
on the matter and make any last convincing cases for keeping it, I
agree.  That's not to say that I want to see two weeks worth of i386
bike-shedding and highly emotional arguments for keeping it purely on
general principle, I'm saying that we need to let a couple of weeks go
by so that along with the emotional bike sheds, anyone with a
*technical* argument for retaining support has a chance to be heard.

As an example, one technical argument I've heard in the past is that
only the 386 is available in radiation-hardened packaging and people
wishing to send FreeBSD into orbit have no choice but to deploy 386
processors.  I've also heard that the 486 is also now available in
rad-hard form which sort of negates that argument, not to mention the
fact that even 386-bound users will always have the older bits
available, but it still points up the fact that such arguments have
existed in the past and might still.  All we need are some serious
users who have a compelling need to use 386s AND need something which
we're only going to have in 5.0 to give us grounds for pause, and I
don't think we're in such a compelling hurry to do this that we can't
give them a couple of weeks to pop up and say something.  All we need
to do is announce our intention to do this more formally first.

- Jordan


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