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Date:      Mon, 10 Jan 2000 04:37:11 -0800 (PST)
From:      Vincent Poy <vince@venus.GAIANET.NET>
To:        Adam Laurie <adam@algroup.co.uk>
Cc:        Dirk Froemberg <dirk@freebsd.org>, "Scot W. Hetzel" <hetzels@westbend.net>, Patrick Bihan-Faou <patrick@mindstep.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, ache@freebsd.org, rse@engelschall.com
Subject:   Re: ports/15873: New Apache_fp+php+mod_ssl-1.3.9+3.0.12+2.4.8 port.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001100436260.20208-100000@venus.GAIANET.NET>
In-Reply-To: <3878BE39.E09CCC2F@algroup.co.uk>

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On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Adam Laurie wrote:

> Vincent Poy wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Dirk Froemberg wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 07:44:30PM -0800, Vincent Poy wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Scot W. Hetzel wrote:
> > > > > > To me the ideal situation would be:
> > > > > > - a simple apache port (apache13)
> > > > > > - a new port category (maybe) for the apache modules where I could find
> > > > > >   mod_ssl, mod_php, mod_frontpage, mod_xyz, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This way I could choose exactly the apache configuration I need/want.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is exactly why I created a "mod_dav" port as opposed to a
> > > > > > "apache-mod_dav-xxx" port. It would be really great if you could do the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > with the mod_frontpage module.
> > > > > >
> > > > > As the original creator of the Apache13-fp port, it is not currently
> > > > > possible to seperate the mod_frontpage module from the Apache Server.  The
> > > > > reason for this is the mod_frontpage requires certain patches be applied to
> > > > > the Apache Server before it gets compiled.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mod_SSL is also in the same situation as it requires the EAPI patches to be
> > > > > applied to the Apache Server.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is possible to come up with a one Apache Server solution, but it will
> > > > > require that the FrontPage patches (patch-f?), EAPI patches, etc be applied
> > > > > and compiled with the Apache port.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then Apache Module ports for mod_fronpage, mod_ssl can be created which
> > > > > compiles these modules as DSO.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the httpd.conf needs a way for adding new DSO to it.
> > > > >
> > > > > HINT: NetBSD ports tree is already doing this for the mod_ssl, php* ports.
> > > >
> > > >     Wouldn't a good way to do it be to simply implement front page
> > > > extensions into the apache13+php3 port since one can select the modules
> > > > and option one wants built into the server.
> > >
> > > Yes, from a technical point of view, it would be easy to integrate
> > > Frontpage extensions to apache13-php3 and make the php part optional,
> > > too.  Then we would have merged apache13, apache13-fp, apache13-modssl
> > > and apache13-php3 into one port. We would have to decide how to deal
> > > with apache13-ssl, then.
> > >
> > > I asked about such integration about a year ago. The maintainer of
> > > apache13-modssl stated that he'd like to keep a seperate port for
> > > modssl. IIRC the maintainer of apache13 wanted to stay independent,
> > > too. This has to be respected of course.
> > >
> > > So I think the major problem is not how to implement certain things,
> > > but to come to a conclusion all (maintainers) can live with.
> > >
> > > Perhaps things have changed since then and we can discuss this issue
> > > again. So I propose to do the following:
> > >
> > > - merge fp extensions into apache13-php3
> > > - make the php3 part of apache13-php3 optional (apache13-php3 should
> > >   be renamed to something reasonable then)
> > > - remove apache13, apache13-fp, apache13-modssl, apache13-php3 and
> > >   apache13-ssl
> > >
> > > Alternatively we can integrate fp extensions into apache13-php3 and
> > > leave everthing else as it is. But I think this wouldn't help very
> > > much because it would be still confusing to have too many apache13-*
> > > ports.
> > >
> > > So what do you think?
> > 
> >         I think both J.C. and Patrick has some good ideas.  Since the
> > mod_ssl is already in php3, the easiest way probably is to have something
> > similar to the php3 port with everything in it and the mod_ssl can only be
> > installed if the user is in the USA with the USA_RESIDENT environment
> > variable.
> 
> note that mod_ssl and apache-ssl are two different packages. you'd need
> to cater for both if you want to do a master/meta port.

	I always thought apache-ssl was apache with ssl compiled in while
mod_ssl is just a module?


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