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Date:      Tue, 1 Mar 2005 01:27:45 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
Message-ID:  <20050301092745.GA95093@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNAEJGFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <20050228200706.GA70059@xor.obsecurity.org> <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNAEJGFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 12:02:51AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >
> >> Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the
> >> random device will probably improve your ssh security - unless they
> >> have greatly improved the entropy generation in the random device in
> >> 5.X
> >
> > Yes.  It seems that you really need to learn about FreeBSD 5.x and
> > how it differs from 4.x.
> >
>=20
> Do I hear an echo here?  Did you miss the part where I said "UNLESS
> they have greatly improved..."
>=20
> The description of the "all new" randomizer in FreeBSD 5.X is all very
> well but I have not got around to run a test suite against it.  So
> until such time as I do, I am not going to assume that it really is
> better.  There's a big gap between implementation and architecture.
>=20
> As I only care to make my stuff crackable by 500 clustered supercomputers
> working for 1 year, instead of 2000 supercomputers working for 100 years,
> I really and truly have had better things to do than test the new
> randomizer.  I presume that you are in the same boat Ken, as you have
> not admitted to testing it either.  If this is the case, perhaps the
> wise thing to do would be to actually test it, rather than just taking
> the word of the manpage in 5.x that it is better?  Eh?

Who's Ken?  And yes, I've tested it.  So has Mark, and Bruce Schneier,
who wrote the algorithm.

Kris

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