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Date:      Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Jameel Akari <jakari@bithose.com>
To:        Josh Tolbert <hemi@scoundrelz.net>
Cc:        Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>, <freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Machine Check when booting dqa0?
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.4.33.0210181647280.726-100000@poptart.bithose.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021018153853.U59632-100000@view.scoundrelz.net>

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On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Josh Tolbert wrote:

> Hi again,
> 	In "show device" at the SRM prompt, only my CD-ROM (DQA0) and
> floppy drive (DVA0) show up. Is there something I need to do to enable the
> primary IDE channel, or does the machine just not like those particular
> (WD) hard drives? Is there something I need to do after the FreeBSD
> install that I'm missing?

	FWIW, I just reported the same issue on my PC164.  I don't think
it's your hard drive.  I've tried two different Western Digitals and a
Fujitsu.  If I make the hard drive the primary master it shows up as dqa0,
but the CDROM doesn't show up (set to primary slave or secondary master).
If the CDROm is primary master, it becomes dqa0.

	Basically, it only finds the primary master (dqa0) no matter what
the device type is.

	Additionally, if I make the CDROM dqa0 and boot my Tru64 CD on it,
it gets as far as jumping to the installer (video mode toggles to an ISO
font) and the kernel panics.  I don't recall if SRM interprets it as a
machine check or not.

	This machine used to be an NT box with ARC and a non-SRM SCSI
controller.  It runs Linux fine (booted from the IDE HDD as dqa0) and once
the Linux kernel boots, it finds the CDROM drive that should have been dqb0,
but isn't.  I booted from a Linux floppy (dva0) in order to do a CDROM
install.

	I'm going to try a different Symbios SCSI card tonight and see if
SRM likes it, because I'd rather do FreeBSD or Tru64 on it, and the
CMD-whatever IDE controller basically sucks anyway.

	All this reminds me of an elderly Ultrix DECstation 3100 we had to
take care of where the drives had to be spun up in just the right order to
show up.. *sighs*

--
Jameel Akari

> > >
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > 	I tried booting from IDE immediately after the power-on, but got
> > > > the same result every time I tried.
> > > > 	The exact machine error is a "660 Machine Check," which from my
> > > > searching indicates a memory error. Can anyone verify this, and if so is
> > > > there any way to determine if the problem is board-related or
> > > > memory-related without swapping the RAM around? I don't have too many EDO
> > > > ECC SIMMs laying around.
> > > > 	Also, is there any place (besides ebay) to find something like a
> > > > UP1000 Alpha motherboard for a reasonable price?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you tried power-cycling the box before attempting to boot?
> > > > >
> > > > > On some machines (my up1000 for example), IDE works great the first
> > > > > time after a cold boot, and then fails upon reboot.  (I just get the
> > > > > timeout messages, not a machine check).  FWIW, I think we're not
> > > > > putting something back the way SRM likes it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Drew
> > > > >
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> >
> > --
> > |   / o / /_  _   				wilko@FreeBSD.org
> > |/|/ / / /(  (_)  Bulte				Arnhem, the Netherlands
> >
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