Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips <anti_spam256@yahoo.ca> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 Message-ID: <785835.98681.qm@web65502.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20090807090100.100251065675@hub.freebsd.org>
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--- On Fri, 8/7/09, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org> wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200 > From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> > On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias <sonicy@otenet.gr> > wrote: > > Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the > fact Windows > > forces the users (and admins) to a completely > different way of thinking > > than FreeBSD. > > That's true. It's even hard to communicate with "'Windows' > admins" > because of a completey different and misleading terminology > - and > sadly often the lack of understanding what they're talking > about. I don't believe half the windows dialog boxes. Why would "checking for available disk space" (win 98 installation) take more than 2 seconds? > > > > > The various wizards abstract way too many parts of > the > > system, to the point where you can configure services > you don't really > > understand (i.e. a DNS server is a few clicks away and > there are many > > 'recommended' defaults along the way). > > Insecure mode: This is the mode you want. Select it NOW! > :-) > I completely understand the reasoning behind "disabled by defaul." It means it doesn't work until you (hopefully) learn what you are doing. That said, following the handbook, I managed to enable ssh twice: one as a stand-alone process, and once as part of inetd. > > > > Yes. As I said (elsewhere), FreeBSD is a multi-purpose OS. > It does > not know what you are intending to use it for, and it > doesn't make > any assumptions. So you have to communicate your > requirements to the > system. This requires a certain knowledge, of course. > Yes, I learned this with Linux. For Debian the install program works a little like a "wizard," but to maintain the system, you need to learn what you are doing. Reboots don't magically fix or break things. <SNIP!> > > Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy > running for > a lifetime. :-) > I love and hate that about *nix :D -James __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
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