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Date:      Thu, 04 Apr 2002 10:39:21 -0800
From:      rick norman <rick.norman@lmco.com>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
Cc:        Alex <freebsd-reply@akruijff.dds.nl>, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: dummynet pipes
Message-ID:  <3CAC9DD9.4F136FF2@lmco.com>
References:  <3CAA0C05.5062D5A7@lmco.com> <20020402120303.A87723@iguana.icir.org> <3CAA5615.21490755@lmco.com> <1182697969.20020403114246@dds.nl> <20020403015059.A92886@iguana.icir.org>

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Thanks for the efforts to clarify.  It is still not quite there though.
If I create a pipe via 'ipfw add pipe n from any to any', I get both
a rule and a pipe.  If I then do 'ipfw pipe flush', from what you said,
the pipe goes away but the rule remains, just dumping the pkts since
the pipe is gone. ' ipfw list' looks the same before and after the pipe
flush.
How does one detect the difference ?  'ipfw pipe list' doesn't show me
anything before or after, 'ipfw list' shows me the same list before and
after.
Rick Norman

Luigi Rizzo wrote:

> While I appreciate the attitude to help, how about trying things
> before mailing out incorrect explainations ?
>
> You do not need to remove the rule before the pipe, because enforcing
> this would be a nightmare when you want to reconfigure pipes or
> in general your ipfw configuration.
>
> Instead, you can have rules which point to non-existing pipes (which
> can be a temporary or permanent condition). When such a rule matches,
> and the pipe is not existing, the packet is just dropped.
>
>         cheers
>         luigi
>
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:42:46AM +0200, Alex wrote:
> ....
> > Consider something like this:
> >
> > ipfw pipe 1 config bw 100kb/s
> > ipfw pipe 2 config bw 200kb/s
> > ipfw add 100 pipe 1 ip from any to any
> >
> > A pipe gets connected to ip-packets via rules. In this case you may
> > need to remove the rule before you remove the pipe because of the
> > dependency between them.
> >
> > 1) ipfw pipe flush
> > 2) ipfw flush
> > 3) ipfw pipe flush
> >
> > 1) Pipe 1 still has a dependency. So you should be only able to remove
> > pipe 2, as this isn't connected to anything
> > 2) This will remove all rules, thus removing the connections between
> > all pipes.
> > 3) This will remove any remaining pipes. This could also be done at
> > 2 if ipfw remembers you want to remove the pipes.
> >
> > I didn't try this out, it just seem logical to me this way. I hope
> > this is any help.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  Alex                            mailto:freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl
> >
> >
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