Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:07:05 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Michaels" <cjm2@earthling.net> To: "'John K'" <john@volvo.se> Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine Message-ID: <000401be9a35$fb8cb780$6400000a@weeble.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.990509144407.7037C-100000@nike.volvo.se>
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If you really want to know how it works, a good book is actually "Samba , Integrating UNIX and Windows" by John Blair. He is one of the developers on the samba team (I believe). The NetBIOS stuff does get set over the TCP/IP, but basically the browsing is achieved by a bunch of broadcast messages on the netbois port, that's why it doesn't work across subnets, unless you have a WINS server, but that's another issue. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: John K [mailto:john@volvo.se] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 8:53 AM To: Christopher Michaels Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine On a side note: I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios information in itīs TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is why you can "browse the network" even if thereīs no NetBeui on your windows box. I havenīt disassembeled any packets to see if it is true though. Best Regads John On Sat, 8 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote: > HUH?! What in the world makes you think you can't browse w/o NetBEUI? All > NetBEUI is, is a protocol, such as IPX and TCP/IP. They are interchangeable > at that level and have nothing to do with browsing. I happen to > intentionally not install NETBEUI on my windoze (95/98) machines and only > have TCP/IP, browsing works just fine (why have multiple protocols when they > aren't needed? less overhead I say). Browsing is determined more by subnets > and wins servers and the like. > > Now down to the original question... > > Are the Samba / win98 / NT machines all on the ip subnet and all in the same > workgroup/domain? > What type of machine is the "master browser", NT server? > Can you manually connect to the FreeBSD machine from the NT machines, e.g. > using NET USE \\MACHINE\SHARE ? > > -Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kent Stewart [SMTP:kstewart@3-cities.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 3:05 PM > > To: Wayne Shiver > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine > > > > I assume you are running SAMBA. Win 9x usually chooses to setup > > NETBEUI. That is an add-in option on NT that most serious networks > > choose to leave out. You can end up with broadcast storms when your NT > > servers have NETBEUI installed. You can't browse without NETBEUI. You > > can, however, connect by using \\netbeui-name\share. Then, you don't > > have the overhead of NETBEUI on your NT servers and the serious > > side-effects. I think I have netbios over tcp/ip, which is the default > > I think, but it has been a few months since I had to tinker with my NT > > machines. I am trying different configurations on FreeBSD and mostly > > telnet to the FreeBSD system. I don't want them running SAMBA. > > > > Kent > > > > Wayne Shiver wrote: > > > > > > For some strange reason I can see freebsd machines in Windows 98 but not > > > on any of our NT workstations or servers. Does anyone no how to get > > > around this problem? > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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