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Date:      Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:38:35 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        "Anders Chr. Skoe" <skoe@owlnet.rice.edu>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Anyone resolved "Missing operating system" issue?
Message-ID:  <20000714133835.X30012@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.000713210002.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20000714095926.C27141@wantadilla.lemis.com> <XFMail.000713210002.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Thursday, 13 July 2000 at 21:00:02 -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 14-Jul-00 Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 13 July 2000 at 17:25:53 -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12-Jul-00 Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 11 July 2000 at 11:35:58 -0500, Anders Chr. Skoe wrote:
>>>>> Howdy, folks!
>>>>>
>>>>> unfortunately, this email follows a pretty good history of posts regarding
>>>>> the "Missing operating system" error.  we install 3.2 with no problems on
>>>>> our western digital WDE4360-1807A3, but it just won't boot.  our bios is
>>>>> the adaptec AHA 2940 Ultra/Ultra W BIOS v1.23.
>>>>>
>>>>> a) if we only create a freebsd partition, and try to boot it, we get the
>>>>> infamous "Missing operating system" error.
>>>>>
>>>>> b) if we create both dos & freebsd partitions, we get to the boot manager,
>>>>> but selecting freebsd doesn't work.  we've tried putting the freebsd
>>>>> partition first as well as the dos partition first, but it makes no
>>>>> difference.  we've also tried various combinations of partition sizes.
>>>>>
>>>>> c) setting the drive geometry to 4095/64/32 doesn't help (someone
>>>>> suggested this in an earlier mail).
>>>>>
>>>>> d) using FDISK we've set the active partition to the freebsd
>>>>> partition.  it doesn't help.
>>>>>
>>>>> e) we can boot from the floppy & cdrom drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> we would really appreciate some useful feedback 'cause it's drivin' us
>>>>> crazy.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like a geometry issue.  Have you selected LBA in the BIOS
>>>> setup?  If so, have you tried both "dangerously dedicated" and
>>>> Microsoft compatible partitions?
>>>
>>> Eek!  Don't use dangerously dedicated on SCSI.  It causes SCSI disks
>>> to break horribly.
>>
>> I've never seen any problems using "dangerously dedicated" on SCSI.
>> I've been doing it all the time for over 8 years.  Care to explain
>> your claim?
>
> I know that Doug White for one had serious issues with dangerously
> dedicated mode on SCSI.

He never documented them to my satisfaction.

> The problem has more to do with newer SCSI controllers that attempt
> to match the geometry speecified in the MBR of the disk.  Since
> dangerously dedicated mode uses a completely fake and made up
> geometry, this can greatly confuse the SCSI controller.

I very much doubt that newer SCSI host adaptors cause any problems.
In any case, I have a number of different ones here, and I've never
had any problems.

Greg
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