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Date:      Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:51:09 -0700
From:      "Anthony C. Chavez" <acc@anthonychavez.org>
To:        Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
Cc:        Willie Viljoen <will@unfoldings.net>, Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Project to improve FreeBSD PR
Message-ID:  <20030127185109.GC62737@anthonychavez.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030127131652.A97223@blackhelicopters.org>
References:  <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net> <3E3533B9.7010603@centtech.com> <200301271532.18792.will@unfoldings.net> <20030127173112.GC60735@anthonychavez.org> <20030127131652.A97223@blackhelicopters.org>

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This has been my intention all along.  We need a central repository for
BSD-related advocacy materials: brochures, presentations, flyers,
banners, the works.  If we do this right, we could have a pretty
powerful tool at our disposal.

You're right, Michael.  We don't need another news site.  DN covers that
quite well, but their advocacy efforts could stand some improvement.
Now that I'm actually part of the team, I want to make that a reality.

What we need most right now are volunteers.  I'm actually spearheading a
major effort for Daemon News right now, which is really eating into my
time.  I will be setting up a mailing list to coordinate this effort
sometime today.  I will advertise it on the appropriate channels once
it's ready.

--=20
Anthony Chavez                             http://www.anthonychavez.org/
mailto:acc@anthonychavez.org         jabber:acc@jabber.anthonychavez.org

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:16:52PM -0500, Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelic=
opters.org> wrote:
> Just my $0.02.
>=20
> I would also recommend either using DN's site, or using one of the
> existing FreeBSD news sites if the goal is to create a site to handle
> news.
>=20
> A long time ago, a group of people decided to start a FreeBSD advocacy
> project.  They went off and started DN.  Now, DN does some good
> things, but they don't accomplish general FreeBSD advocacy.
>=20
> We have sites that list articles, i.e., www.freebsd.org/news.  What's
> needed is for people to submit patches to that page.
>=20
> Please, let's not reinvent the wheel.  I don't want to squash anyone's
> enthusiasm, really, but what we need are solid advocacy materials to
> hand to wanna-be advocates, not Yet Another PHP-based News Posting
> Board.  Writing those things is fun, but it's not what needs to be
> done.  :-(
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> =3D=3Dml
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> On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:31:12AM -0700, Anthony C. Chavez wrote:
> > I'm going to stick my neck out here and (again) recommend that you
> > consider using the advcoacy page at Daemon News:
> >=20
> > http://advocacy.daemonnews.org/
> >=20
> > DN's goal is to represent not just FreeBSD, but the BSDs in general.
> >=20
> > The site is dead at the moment, but IMO, it would be an ~excellent~
> > choice to house this project.  We (rather, I) had actually planned to
> > put something together within the next few months, anyway.
> >=20
> > What does everyone think?
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Anthony Chavez                             http://www.anthonychavez.org/
> > mailto:acc@anthonychavez.org         jabber:acc@jabber.anthonychavez.org
> >=20
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 03:32:18PM +0200, Willie Viljoen <will@unfoldin=
gs.net> wrote:
> > > On Monday 27 January 2003 15:27, you wrote:
> > > > Willie Viljoen wrote:
> > > > > In the excitement of setting up a project, it seems Stacy and I h=
ave
> > > > > managed to steal it inadvertantly from Peter Kieser. Our sincerest
> > > > > apologies to Peter for the offence, we hope that we can mend some=
 fences
> > > > > and possibly join forces with him.
> > > >
> > > > [..chomp..]
> > > >
> > > > Wow.. One second I'm begging people to help with bsdevents.org, and=
 the
> > > > next people are taking hostages to work on projects..  I wish all
> > > > projects went like this.
> > > >
> > > > So, is this only for general advocacy, for "to do" items, events, e=
tc?
> > > > Which one?  All of them?  Should I NOT register bsdevents.org? (she=
esh,
> > > > whic IS IT?! :))
> > >=20
> > > Register :)
> > >=20
> > > I'm planning to get freebsdnews.org later today once some people retu=
rn some=20
> > > e-mails, but it will be specifically for links to news articles and r=
elease=20
> > > announcements and such things, no reason we can't link the two sites =
though,=20
> > > create a sort of BSD web ring like OSDN have done with=20
> > > slashdot/freshmeat/sourceforge etc :)
> > >=20
> > > >
> > > > I can also offer www/dns/etc for the project if anyone still needs =
it.
> > >=20
> > > That would be great, I think we've got DNS and mail mostly sorted, bu=
t some=20
> > > more WWW mirrors are always appreciated, I'll let you knowf
> > >=20
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Willie Viljoen
> > > Freelance IT Consultant
> > >=20
> > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas
> > > Bloemfontein
> > > 9321
> > > South Africa
> > >=20
> > > +27 51 522 15 60
> > > +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours)
> > > +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile)
> > >=20
> > > will@unfoldings.net
> > >=20
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
> > >=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Michael Lucas		mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org
> http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/
>=20
>            Absolute BSD:   http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/

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