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Date:      Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:40:20 +0000
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.org>
To:        "Jacques A. Vidrine" <nectar@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Does the patching procedure work? 
Message-ID:  <200303051940.h25JeKIg068723@grimreaper.grondar.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:09:55 CST." <20030305190955.GA17065@madman.celabo.org> 

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Hi

This thread is going well off-topic. How to use patch(1) is a questions@
problem. Please take this off-line.

The patch lifetime part is OK.

M

"Jacques A. Vidrine" writes:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:18:03AM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
> > It turns out that it was 4.5-RELEASE-p4, just a sliver before
> > 4.6. (The system had been patched for later problems rather
> > than upgraded, because it's a production machine.) Quite recent. 
> > (You don't want to change point versions constantly on 
> > production machines.)
> 
> If this machine had been kept up-to-date (i.e. was 4.5-RELEASE-p22 or
> more recent, or had the previous sendmail bug patched), then the patch
> would probably have worked out.
>  
> > I was lucky I noticed the problem. The messages just rolled
> > by, and if I hadn't scrolled back I would not have caught
> > them. I'll bet some folks missed this and are unprotected.
> > (The hunks that are rejected are important, but the message
> > about dropping the comments is in one of the hunks that's
> > accepted, so it looks as if the patch took!)
> 
> Lucky?  Hrmpf, a system administrator has to be careful.  Actually
> examining the output of any given command that one runs is pretty much
> a requirement if you want to know if it succeeded or not... as is
> checking the exit code.
> 
> But here's a tip to make that easier: use the `-s' and `-C' flags with
> patch.  See the man page.
> 
> > What I have done on that machine is install the 4.6 binary,
> > which seems to run just fine on 4.5 and even 4.4 (though
> > you may need to add the misssing group).
> 
> Cool.
>  
> > Patches should be provided back to 4.4, IMHO.
> 
> Um, in this case, they were provided all the way back to 3.x.
> 
> However, in general, the table at 
> <URL: http://www.freebsd.org/security/#adv>;
> is what you can count on.
> 
> I will gladly extend the lifetime of one branch one extra year for
> each US$25,000 I receive.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Jacques A. Vidrine <nectar@celabo.org>          http://www.celabo.org/
> NTT/Verio SME          .     FreeBSD UNIX     .       Heimdal Kerberos
> jvidrine@verio.net     .  nectar@FreeBSD.org  .          nectar@kth.se
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