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Date:      Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:43:19 +0200
From:      "Pelle Andersson" <pelle@spd.nu>
To:        "'Matthew Seaman'" <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OpenSSL/0.9.7c-p1 & OpenSSH_3.5p1
Message-ID:  <005801c42867$64c39ba0$cd87a8c0@spd.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20040422113124.GD26669@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>

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	Thanks Matthew for an oustanding answer (Dirk assisted) =)
	Thats sorted out a few thing for me and hopefully for others to.

	I feel safe now when I know the following:

	"One of the points about the -RELEASE branches is that they are
	guarranteed *not* to have any new functionality introduced.
	Updates are limited to bugfixes, generally for security bugs only."


	When I now also know that...

	"Now, you are running the latest patchlevel on the 4.9-RELEASE branch,
	which means that all known bugs in OpenSSL and OpenSSH will have been
	fixed.  However *only* the bugs have been fixed."

	...I do not think I shall upgrade to newer versions.


	It's very good to know:

	"If you want the newer versions of those packages, then you have two
	choices."

	Maybe there will be a need for an upgrade in the future.



	As I wrote in the beginning, thanks a lot for an outstanding reply.

	Best regards Pelle



-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fran: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk]
Skickat: den 22 april 2004 13:31
Till: Pelle Andersson
Kopia: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Amne: Re: OpenSSL/0.9.7c-p1 & OpenSSH_3.5p1


On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:27:10AM +0200, Pelle Andersson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> How can I the easiest way update/upgrade OpenSSL & OpenSSH on a FreeBSD
4.9
> machine?
>
> I saw on the net that they where part of the "base system" and therefore I
> can't
> use portupgrade or "make deinstall/make reinstall"
>
> I thought they where updated when running 'make world'?
>
> Now I am using:
> >> OpenSSL 0.9.7c-p1 30 Sep 2003
> >> OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924
>
> uname -a:
>
> FreeBSD frodo.domain.xyz 4.9-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p5 #2: Wed Apr
> 21 10:21:22 CEST 2004
> @frodo.domain.xyz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FIBOPTIMIZED  i386

You're running 4.9-RELEASE.  One of the points about the -RELEASE
branches is that they are guarranteed *not* to have any new
functionality introduced.  Updates are limited to bugfixes, generally
for security bugs only.

Now, you are running the latest patchlevel on the 4.9-RELEASE branch,
which means that all known bugs in OpenSSL and OpenSSH will have been
fixed.  However *only* the bugs have been fixed.  There haven't been
any patches to add features, neither have there been any patches to
modify version numbers.  Naive security scanners that *just* look at
the version numbers of installed packages will tell you incorrectly
that you have a problem.

If you want the newer versions of those packages, then you have two
choices.  You can install them from ports, or you can upgrade to and
track a different FreeBSD source branch.

If you install from ports, there is a facility for you to install the
port in such a way as to overwrite the equivalents in the base system.
You can certainly do this if you want, but think carefully before
doing so.  Overwriting bits of the base system will make it harder for
you to do regular upgrades.

Otherwise, if you choose to upgrade to a different source branch, you
will need to choose one of the development branches in order to get
new versions of stuff -- that either 4-STABLE or 5-CURRENT.  But
5-CURRENT is not really suitable for any use other than developing the
system. 4-STABLE is quite close to winding down, and it's not planned
to import the very latest versions of OpenSSH etc: the upcoming
4.10-RELEASE will probably be the last release branched from there,
and that will have OpenSSH 3.5p1.  Other packages may well get updates
though.  5-STABLE is planned coincident with 5.3-RELEASE, which is the
next release planned to happen after 4.10.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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