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Date:      Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:00:19 +1100 (EST)
From:      Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@mother.sneaker.net.au>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        garbanzo@hooked.net, nectar@NECTAR.COM, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Out of Box experience (Was: Re: How is selection made of what goes into CDrom?)
Message-ID:  <199712010700.SAA22510@mother.sneaker.net.au>
In-Reply-To: <19737.880955544@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 30, 97 09:52:24 pm

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+-----[ Jordan K. Hubbard ]------------------------------
| 
| > That was me who suggested _that_.  I still think that a graphical
| > counterpart of sorts to sysinstall or its successor, (which you are 
| > writing right? ;-) ) is something, that would certianly add a little bit
| > of polish to FBSD, and perhaps increase its userbase.  While I'm kinda
| 
| Sure would, but the bootstrapping issues are hard.  To use an X based
| anything, be it Qt or (to be more politically correct) Tk based,
| requires that you get the user fully into a running X environment
| first and that's often very hard, especially if the user in question
| happens to be missing a couple of blades on his propeller, if you get
| my drift. 

Geez it took me a long time to find a '.' to break d8)

Does graphical necessarily have to be X ? I know that a console gui
based one means it probably can't run under X easily (or can you?).
That'll make remote sysinstalls a pain if you can't.

Don't forget there's also a curses version of Tk which does a fair
job. The SCO (boo hiss) system tool works this way, if you run it from
a console it uses the curses version, otherwise you get the pretty
X one. So your development of a dual-mode sysinstall using Tk would
(almost) fall out for free.

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