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Date:      Sun, 8 Jul 2012 20:13:21 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@missouri.edu>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148
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On Jul 8, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Steve Kargl wrote:
> Not to mention, I've seen way too many examples of 'x - y'
> where cancellation of significant digits causes
> problems.  Throw in rather poor estimates of function
> results with real poor ULP and you have problems.

Are these problems significantly more or less than the usual #define I =
talked about before?  If the functions are so so, but much better than =
the double version, we have a significant win, even if things aren't =
perfect.

If we weren't 13 past the publication date of the c99 standard, I'd be =
more sympathetic to the 'we need a high quality implementation' =
arguments.  However, we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good =
here.  We claim c99 conformance, yet don't have these functions.=20

After all, many of the original functions that were in our library had =
sub-optimial performance which bruce optimized over many years.  Why =
can't we use this model here?

Warner




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