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Date:      Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:57:44 -0700
From:      "Anthony C. Chavez" <acc@anthonychavez.org>
To:        Willie Viljoen <will@unfoldings.net>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Some corrections about freebsdnews.org
Message-ID:  <20030127185744.GD62737@anthonychavez.org>
In-Reply-To: <200301272043.20423.will@unfoldings.net>
References:  <200301272043.20423.will@unfoldings.net>

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This has turned into a somewhat unfortunate mess.  I wish I would have
had time to respond to this over the weekend.

Your description of freebsdnews sounds ~exactly~ like Daemon News,
except that it sounds like you're going to focus on FreeBSD rather than
the BSDs as a whole.

Daemon News (well, actually, it's just me and maybe a couple of others)
has been interested in re-vamping the advocacy portal for a few months
now.  http://advocacy.daemonnews.org/ has been around for quite some
time now, but it's suffered from severe neglect, like most others.

Josef El-Rayes and Peter Kieser have both expressed a fairly high degree
of enthusiasm for hosting the advocacy site on advocacy.daemonnews.org.
I have yet to hear back from you or Stacy Olivas yet.

I don't mean to deter you from starting freebsdnews, but IMO, DN is a
much more appropriate place to host an advocacy site.

By all means, if you want to continue with your site, please do!
However, we can save you the cost of a domain for one thing, and for
another, DN's ~purpose~ is to represent the BSDs as a whole, rather than
just one flavor.

Please let me know what you decide to do.  Thanks!

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Anthony Chavez                             http://www.anthonychavez.org/
mailto:acc@anthonychavez.org         jabber:acc@jabber.anthonychavez.org

On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:43:20PM +0200, Willie Viljoen <will@unfoldings.n=
et> wrote:
> Thought I should get my two cents too. It seems that there's been alot of=
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> confusion in the past few days about what we're planning to do. As I note=
d in=20
> my previous post, freebsdnews.org, which will (hopefully) go up on Feb 14=
,=20
> will not be (just) another PHP post forum. We'll have such a thing with=
=20
> headlines mirroring freebsd.org/news, and interesting (but short) posts o=
n=20
> slashdot and other such places.
>=20
> The main focus however will be a kind of "in-depth" news site. We're hopi=
ng to=20
> have FreeBSD-specific articles, posted by anybody who feels like it, and=
=20
> edited (hopefully) by somebody with the needed skills like Michael or Pet=
er.=20
> We'd like to try and push these to more major publications, ie, news pape=
rs,=20
> magazines, or, atleast, to get their awareness level to such a point wher=
e=20
> they would consider writing such things themselves. Ofcourse, these artic=
les=20
> would be public domain, so anybody who feels like it can republish (which=
 is=20
> exactly what we would want)
>=20
> The aim of freebsdnews.org, basically, is to get the general public,=20
> especially the less tech-savvy folks who might just find it interesting,=
=20
> aware of FreeBSD. The Linux people have done a great job by writing about=
=20
> their new kid on the block OS on every oportunity, and having their large=
r=20
> commercial distributions push full-page adds. We don't need full-page add=
s,=20
> but a few full pages of propaganda every now and then will do a world of=
=20
> good.
>=20
> Also maybe things like a "letter from the trenches", informal HOWTOs wher=
e=20
> people experimenting with general FreeBSD things can keep a diary of thei=
r=20
> experiences for other people to work from. A long, very detailed article =
on=20
> configuring WINE on FreeBSD, showing people how to get their favourite ga=
me=20
> running perfectly, instead of just a quick note that it works (which woul=
d=20
> suffice in my case) would be all we need to persuade some of the worlds=
=20
> gamers and would be UNIX enthusiasts to give FreeBSD a try.
>=20
> Maybe even interesting factoid pages like biographies of FreeBSD develope=
rs,=20
> contributors, etc.
>=20
> I've never been one for reinventing the wheel, and we certainly don't wan=
t to=20
> try and do what slashdot and daemonnews and freebsd.org already do very w=
ell.=20
> We'll see where this goes and if it helps :)
>=20
> Will
> --=20
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