Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:26:17 -0500 From: "Jon Passki" <jon.passki@neicoltech.org> To: "Freebsd-Questions" <freebsd-questions@freeBSD.ORG> Subject: FW: Food for thought on NT security Message-ID: <000201bee4e7$c8d91200$6d07a8c0@fbsd.neicoltech.org>
next in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
Ho hum, ain't this a perfect flame war starter? Jon Passki (Happy FBSD user) NEI College of Technology office:(612)782-7342 fax:(612)782-7329 -----Original Message----- From: Windows NT Discussion List [mailto:WINNT-L@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Joshua Burgner Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:20 PM To: WINNT-L@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Subject: Re: Food for thought on NT security Just more food for thought: May I suggest that the shear imbalance between Windows and Unix in hacking activity implied in this article are largely due to the following factors: 1) Most "sexually frustrated pimple faced virus writers" do not have access to Unix systems. They create and test their nefarious methods not on elaborate networks, but on simple home systems/LAN's which run on the most readily available, widespread operating system available: Windows. 2) Physiologically, the greater the population density, the greater the potential for the spread of disease. Technologically, the same is true. The high population density, the close logical proximity caused by the great number of Windows based PC's, also presents greater potential for the spread of a virus. 3) The rich functionality of Windows presents more options to the potential hacker than that of UNIX. While the risk is higher, so are the benefits. You cannot have the functionality without the risk. 4) Windows programming is easy to learn. Read the help files and all of a sudden, you are programming. This is a great benefit to Windows programmers of all types, both those with legitimate solutions, and those with scurrilous intentions. UNIX programming, on the other hand... I am not making the claim that NT is the perfect operating system. Neither am I trying to slander UNIX. I am just stating that the imbalance in hacking activity between the two operating systems is the logical result of the nature of these systems. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Aalberg [mailto:danialaa@CONAGRAMALT.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 4:31 PM To: WINNT-L@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Subject: Re: Food for thought on NT security written by a UNIX bigot.... will they ever relent? This is just my opinion, but I've played with UNIX and it is a stable and robust OS, but so is NT if on good hardware and installed correct (just like UNIX). UNIX has good features (a lot if you are into Egyptian hieroglyphics at the command line :) for the admin, but to get the everyday end user and administrator to work with it at a corporate level, well, it'll never happen. The feature rich and intuitive OS like NT/95 (or, dare I say OS/2) and flexibility of the applications on the GUI OS's compared to UNIX is worth ever bit of moron hacker attempt and sexually frustrated pimple faced virus writer out there. And I tell ya, If pimple boy put down his playboy and started writing viruses against UNIX, the "great wall" would fall (published src code makes a safe OS?) please no flames, hey, I have a UNIX box at my home. Up 100%, no head, telnet does it all. > -----Original Message----- > From: Creamer, Mark [SMTP:CreamerM@CINTASMAIL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:40 AM > To: WINNT-L@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > Subject: Food for thought on NT security > > http://www.oreilly.com/news/hacked_0899.html > > Mark Creamer > LAN Systems Administrator > Cintas Corporation - "The Uniform People" > 6800 Cintas Boulevard > Mason, OH 45040 > (513) 459-1200 > mark.creamer@cintasmail.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > The WINNT-L list is hosted on a Windows NT(TM) machine running L-Soft > international's LISTSERV(R) software. For subscription/signoff info > and archives, see http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/winnt-l.html . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- The WINNT-L list is hosted on a Windows NT(TM) machine running L-Soft international's LISTSERV(R) software. For subscription/signoff info and archives, see http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/winnt-l.html . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- The WINNT-L list is hosted on a Windows NT(TM) machine running L-Soft international's LISTSERV(R) software. For subscription/signoff info and archives, see http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/winnt-l.html . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?000201bee4e7$c8d91200$6d07a8c0>