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Date:      Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:45:26 -0400
From:      James Housley <jim@thehousleys.net>
To:        Steve Roome <steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Makeworld is dying...
Message-ID:  <39C62A86.3F7108F7@thehousleys.net>
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Steve Roome wrote:
> 
> 
> So could we change the text (something like, but better worded than
> the following) in the FAQ, e.g. :
> 
> Q: My programs occasionally die with Signal 11 ( or 10 ).
> 
> A: Signal 11 errors are caused when your process has attempted to
>    access memory which the operating system has not granted it access
>    to.
> 
>    This could be caused by a number of different circumstances :
> 
>         a) Most likely, if you're developing it yourself it's buggy
>         code. (We've all been there!)
> 
>         b) If it's a problem with part of the base FreeBSD system,
>         it might be buggy code, but more often than not these problems
>         are found long before us general FAQ readers get to use these
>         bits of code.
> 
>         If these problems are only affecting you, it's probably bad
>         hardware.
> 
>         In the case of a) you can use a debugger and find the point
>         in the program which is attempting to access a bogus address
>         and then fix it. [ you probably already know this if you're
>         a programmer! ]
> 
>         In the case of b) You need to verify the settings on your
>         motherboard. Checking for hardware you might be running slightly
>         out of spec, too fast, or mismatched hardware. Often setting
>         memory wait states too short will trigger random signal 11's.
>         An overclocked CPU will possibly also exhibit strange or similar
>         symptoms.
> 
>         Try running some memory testing programs, or do a make buildworld
>         if you have the full source available for FreeBSD (after a few
>         successful buildworlds it's probably safe to say the hardware
>         is okay.).
> 
>         See the SIG11 FAQ (LINK) for more information.
> 
> That's my idea for a rough draft anyway. I'm clearly illiterate
> though, please don't flame me for that!
> 
I like it because it also give some simple, usefully ways to verify the
problem.

Jim
-- 
microsoft: "where do you want to go today?"
linux:     "where do you want to go tomorrow?"
BSD:       "are you guys coming, or what?"
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