Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:00:04 -0800 From: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> To: Gavin Atkinson <gavin@FreeBSD.org> Cc: usb@FreeBSD.org, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@FreeBSD.org>, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP usb2/usb4bsd to become default in GENERIC Message-ID: <498FAA44.9050105@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <1234119008.7997.32.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> References: <20090206045349.GQ78804@elvis.mu.org> <498C013B.4000405@FreeBSD.org> <20090208052110.GY78804@elvis.mu.org> <1234119008.7997.32.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk>
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Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 21:21 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> * Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> [090206 01:50] wrote: >>> Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>>> - Update GENERIC to use usb2 device names. >>> Wasn't there a plan to rename usb2 devices to match oldusb names (where >>> applicable) once oldusb had been killed? I don't see it in the list. >> Probably, although coming from the other side as a user I find it pretty >> annoying when there's somewhat gratuitous changes to the kernel config >> files that I don't really care about that cause my kernels to break. > > The vast majority of our users do not run -CURRENT, and so haven't had > to change config files yet. > > One day, those users will be migrating from 7.x to 8.x, and shouldn't > need to change their kernel config for a "somewhat gratuitous change". > > Your argument only works if people had already had to change their > config files once (usb -> usb2), and that by renaming these back they > will have to change their kernel config back. Only people running > -CURRENT will end up having to do this twice (or indeed at all) if the > rename takes place, end users will not need to do it at all. That's exactly my point. Number of people running -CURRENT is much less than total number of people running FreeBSD. Therefore, I believe we should try to avoid introducing any superfluous changes upon those users. Not even to mention large body of USB-related documentation that will need to be altered to match the new USB world order. Users running -CURRENT should be prepared to make changes now and then, it's part of the game. I don't POLA is really applicable to them. -Maxim
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