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Date:      Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:54:33 -0500 (EST)
From:      Bill Vermillion <bill@bilver.magicnet.net>
To:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: two routers back to back: Do they need real ip-adresses?
Message-ID:  <199811131354.IAA28224@bilver.magicnet.net>
In-Reply-To: <199811130430.UAA22947@kjsl.com> from Javier Henderson at "Nov 12, 98 08:30:40 pm"

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Javier Henderson recently said:
> Bill Vermillion writes:

>  > As long as both routers know about the other and it is an
>  > ethernet connection - just hook them together. I did that in
>  > the process of moving 4 C's from one provider to another. It
>  > made it convenient and then I could upgrade the IOS on the
>  > first.

...

>  > > Our uplink isp wants us to subnet one of our C's in a /30, is
>  > > this really nessecary?

>  > That's typically the address of the serial port.   A /30 gives a
>  > four address range.  The network number, 2 IPS, and a broadcast
>  > number.   The ones I've seen have the ISP as the lower of the two
>  > addresses and the client as the upper of the two.   These normally
>  > are not part of your address space.

> 	The above is correct, though your ISP probably wants you to
> use numbered links so packets generated by either router have an IP
> source address of the interface from which they are leaving the
> router. This can help troubleshoot certain network problems.

The two different providers I used  - had to move because our first
couldn't supply needed bandwidth for a contract we got - all use
the /30 method.

It always seemed logical to me - as that was the first way I had
ever seen it or used it.  I've taken the top end of one of our C's,
and broken it up into groups of 4 so I can route addresses out
through the serial ports for remote services.


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