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Date:      Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:46:12 -0500
From:      eculp <eculp@encontacto.net>
To:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer.
Message-ID:  <20110725114612.15892pix5tua52io@econet.encontacto.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1107250725230.11918@wonkity.com>
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Quoting Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>:

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>
>> on 25/07/2011 07:47 Warren Block said the following:
>>> 2.  The options don't always really apply.  Create when ad0 is =20
>>> highlighted leads
>>> the user to think they can create a new device, like ad1.  But it =20
>>> will really
>>> create another partition.  Delete on ad0 deletes all the =20
>>> partitions, not ad0.
>>> No warning, either.
>>
>> Are you sure about this one?
>> I have never expected that any installer would be able to create or delet=
e
>> hardware (a hard disk) in my computer.
>
> "Device" as in entry in /dev.
>
> It's a little blurrier than that.  With no partitioning scheme, =20
> Create makes one, having the user select the type.  After that, it =20
> creates new partitions.
>
> Having messed with this editor more, I can make it work and see the =20
> intent of the user interface.  I wish I could suggest a good way to =20
> make it more clear, but can't quite get my brain around it right now.

That makes two of us right now.  I gave up, accepted the automatic =20
partition and everything else went as expected, I suppose.  The disk =20
results are:

# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks    Used     Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ada0p2 941441086 2150880 863974920     0%    /
devfs               1       1         0   100%    /dev

In my world from the beginning of commercial unix, I have never had a =20
one partition disk.  I'm not sure if it is that bad with today's, =20
controllers, drives, drivers, etc.  I hope someone chimes in with a "I =20
see no major problems with gpt."

My major problem was editing the automatic swap that was set at 4G and =20
the menu would not let me change the 4G.  The experienced option would =20
not accept a blank value as swap even though there was message that =20
said it would.

I feel like a real idiot and am beginning to believe that it might be true.
The rest of the install was brain dead.  It was possibly a bit simpler =20
than the previous.  Less decisions ;)

I had the idea the following were available in the new installer.
   1.  Raid configuration
   2.  ZFS
   3.  Regular everyday simple disk partitioning as before.

I wasn't able to find any functional option except the one mentioned above.

Now, I have to accept this single partition or upgrade sources to =20
date, build a release and reinstall but I don't know if the problem =20
has been fixed.  I'll probably give it a try.  It isn't that much of a =20
deal.

Thanks,
ed
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