Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:26:14 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org> To: Igor Sysoev <is@rambler-co.ru> Cc: Alan Cox <alc@cs.rice.edu> Subject: Re: Update: Debox sendfile modifications Message-ID: <20031109182614.GH558@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0311091515470.18994-100000@is.park.rambler.ru> References: <20031109033026.GF558@funkthat.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0311091515470.18994-100000@is.park.rambler.ru>
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Igor Sysoev wrote this message on Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 15:16 +0300:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
>
> > Igor Sysoev wrote this message on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:31 +0300:
> > > I think it can done in the following way - a socket should have flag
> > > that says that sendfile() had started the reading a page.
> >
> > layer violation...
>
> I do not think that it's layer violation. sendfile() works with
> descriptor so it should know its state. It should know wheather
> descriptor is non-blocking or has it enough buffer space.
Ugh, yes, you are correct.. it is limited to sockets:
if ((error = fgetsock(td, uap->s, &so, NULL)) != 0)
goto done;
if (so->so_type != SOCK_STREAM) {
:(
[...]
> > If you made this a fd transparent operation then I would agree with
> > it.
>
> The current sendfile() implementation works with sockets only.
> Well, I agree that such sendfile() implementation is a hack.
> Nowever this implementation is very usefull in the real world -
> it allows to minimize a data copy in http and ftp servers.
>
> I just could not figure to myself where can be usefull the
> high perfomance sendfile() to a pipe.
It's not so much of how, but optimizing for the general case, not
the specific case. I was using pipes as an example, what about for
coping one fd to another? Right now cp will try to mmap a 16meg buffer,
and use that, if it fails, it falls back to a read/write loop.. why
not do something like copyfd that does it more optimally?
> I think that it's better to leave sendfile() as a sending to a socket
> only hack. I believe that any sendfile() generalization (e.g. sending
> data from a socket to a file) is useless.
oh? why do you think that is useless? What about all the applications
like ftp clients, and wget/fetch/curl that do it on a regular basis?
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