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Date:      Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:01:55 -0500
From:      Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To:        Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
Cc:        roam@ringlet.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: docs/36618: [PATCH] Chapter Storage: bad link to mkisofs
Message-ID:  <20020402110155.31a21fac.darklogik@pittgoth.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020402114210.GB8887@submonkey.net>
References:  <200204011710.g31HA4891168@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020401202402.B1814@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020402114210.GB8887@submonkey.net>

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:42:10 +0100
Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 08:24:02PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > >  
> > >  I'll take this one.  Martin, I feel with you, the <command> and
> > >  <application> tags in the Primer MAY need a little bit added
> > >  to them, so that users can understand the difference.  A few
> > >  times I have been smacked by the difference in use, ask
> > >  Ceri about Re: NFS and the part he pointed out where it was
> > >  not a command ;)
> 
> You still have the scars ?!  :)

Never will they heal ;)

> 
> Murray and I were talking about this one just a few days ago, where
> I strongly objected to using <filename
> role="package">sysutils/cdrtools</fil.. because that port doesn't
> actually install mkisofs.
> 
> In the interim I think we went for omitting the markup altogether,
> but I'm not sure as I don't recall actually looking.  The commit log
> for doc/.../books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml should hold the truth
> (iirc).

hmmm.  I do not think we should just drop the markup, because then
a new user may try to run the application and wonder why its not
working like we say.  Perhaps, a link to the port?  Just <application>
tags?  Maybe a regular <filename> tag would do.  But we should point
out that this is NOT part of the base system ;)

> 
> > >  Even though this has been pointed out before, its about time
> > >  SOMEONE fixed it.  Thanks alot for your help Martin!
> > 
> > As noted in PR docs/32468, the real fix would be to add an
> > attribute to the <filename> (it was <port> at the time of
> > discussion of 32468, it's <filename> now :), which overrides the
> > default pkg-descr file. Then, everywhere mkisofs is mentioned, it
> > should just point to the cdrtools pkg-descr file.
> 
> Agreed. I'd volunteer, but I don't believe my powers quite reach
> that far yet.

Perhaps a <filename role="download me"> or something dumb like that,
for ports that a pkg-descr is not availible.  This one is your call
Ceri, were both still mentor-bound ;)

> 
> Ceri
> 
> -- 
> keep a mild groove on
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