Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: Jamie Bowden <jamie@inna.net> To: Keith Leonard <keithl@wakko.gil.net> Cc: Wes Peters <softweyr@xmission.com>, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cursing the sky (was: Commerical applications ...) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970122205745.10531B-100000@tyger.inna.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970122190327.14622A-100000@wakko.gil.net>
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Anyone who wants my .ctwmrc is free to have it. I give it freely. I give all my .files freely. I like the fact that I can pick a window manager, totally customize my environment, etc. Yes, I have been a UNIX user/admin for a while. It's complex, but real usable systems tend to be. I don't consider win95 a real usable environment. I have fairly standard hardware, and it's not reliable. OS/2 is rock stable, but no apps for it. FreeBSD is the os of choice. I made it easy for my wife, but I didn't have to. She can use win95 or os/2 anytime she wants. She uses X to access the net almost exclusively. I spent much time customizing that box. Time that couldn't be spent making win95 as stable or freindly (to me), simply because the tools don't exist. Jamie Bowden Network Administrator, TBI Ltd. On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Keith Leonard wrote: > Howdy Jamie, > > Did you give the BSD cd to you wife and she created the buttons and > install all the software?? NO. Which is my point. If you could give your > wife the CD and with a simple book at her side SHE could install it and > then use with a little reading it would be more widely used. As it is now > YOU had to set it up (bet you didn't start using Unix yesterday). This is > what I've been talking about. > > With Windoze (3.0, 3.1) when you install a program it puts icons on your > desktop and you double click. With Unix , you not only have to guess what > the programs executiable is really named you have to have a full working > knowledge of were in the setup file for your window manager to put it, how > to create the button, what size screen to make it , how to specify its > geometry (Netscape uses a '.' Mosaic a *, xterm uses characters, Mosaic > uses pixals....) yadda, yadda, yadda. > > > This is my point! > > What you say below is what is needed to popularize BSD etc, not with the > rocket jockeys but with the average joe in the street. An installation > routine that will install the basics and be setup to run. Craftwork linux > uses 2 questions to configure X, and neither is more complicated than is > asked by Windoze (3.1 or 3.0) - shock-suprise it actually works. > > On Wed, > 22 Jan 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > > Uh, my wife has no idea how to use unix. Whe she logs in, X comes up, > > and all she has to do is click a mouse button to connect to the net. She > > starts netscape, pine, etc. from a mouse button. I also have buttons to > > disconnect and shutdown as necessary. > > > >
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