Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 06:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali <oogali@intranova.net> To: "Daniel J. Zaccariello" <marisombra@mindspring.com> Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005030606021.8491-100000@hydrant.intranova.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000503011749.00ca7100@pop.mindspring.com>
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Almost everything that ends with a '?' gets a reply someway, somehow about #freebsdhelp. It's not a matter of being a newbie or cluebie. Yes, some people help, but the majority of the time, they don't. It's emphasized via /topic's, /kick's, and channel messages, but people to continue to ban-evade, DoS operators, flood the channel, and throw insults back. Ask John Baldwin about his experience yesterday, someone came in for help, he said to go to either #freebsdhelp or questions@freebsd.org and they responded with an insult, one of the persons involved in this thread was logged saying 'fuck you too' after a channel operator *helped* him. The more abuse that pops up results in more kicking and banning (or op abuse as people like to refer to it). Take a look at the logs and you'll see the responses we get after we tell them it's not a help channel. Examples: "I don't wanna read the FAQ, it's too long." "Can't you just tell me here?" "That man page doesn't exist." Furthermore, this thread should die, the FAQ explains that #FreeBSD on EFnet isn't a help channel, there may be some occasional help, but that doesn't give you the God-given right to expect it at all times. Like the FAQ says, "YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED." On Wed, 3 May 2000, Daniel J. Zaccariello wrote: > No you don't. I've been there plenty of times, and have spoken to very > polite people who helped me a great deal. Should I call you a liar with > the same rush to judgment as you call a person that asks a question in the > channel a newbie, or cluebie? > > At 05/02/2000 07:20 PM Tuesday, you wrote: > >The point is that it isn't a help channel and we emphasize that every 3-5 > >minutes and everytime a question is asked. > > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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