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Date:      Mon, 9 Nov 1998 01:35:48 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jason K. Fritcher" <jkf@calweb.com>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
Cc:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: router/bridge question
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9811090131190.22803-100000@web2.calweb.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811090700.IAA27388@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>

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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Buy an inexpensive 4- or 8-port ethernet switch, and put your FreeBSD
> > router on a switch port, with each of your two new "subnets" uplinked
> > into other switch ports.  You won't have to partition your addresses 
> > or any other silly admin headaches.
> 
> while i agree that given the budget one can use a switch, i want to
> point out that:
>  + the additional cost for the original solution is just one more
>    ethernet card;
>  + even by dedicating a full machine to the task,
>    a real switch (not a hub) might probably cost as much as a
>    leftover pentium machine with 2-3 ethernet boards;
>  + most "inexpensive" switches come with UTP connectors, sothe original
>    poster might have to put in additional UTP<->BNC adapters.

Exactly. We already have a machine dedicated to being a gateway, and adding
another NIC, and patching a kernel is a lot more financially efficient than
dedicating a switch to a network of only ~25 machines.

> and finally:
> 
>  + bridging in FreeBSD is real bridging -- you don't have to partition
>    addresses or admin/configure anything for the bridging part.
> 
> not to mention that you can make use of firewall and dummynet at the
> bridging level.

Hmmm... What would the difference be of using ipfw at this level vs at the
IP level?

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