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Date:      Sun, 6 Oct 2002 01:32:27 +0100 (BST)
From:      Byron Schlemmer <freebsd-current@byron.me.uk>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@freebsd.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The official "GEOM is in the tree" speech.
Message-ID:  <20021006010530.D2695-100000@pan.home>
In-Reply-To: <31691.1033850343@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> Ok, we've reached a milestone which have been on the radar for 8=BD
> years, at least for some of us:

Wow! Thats determination :)

> Our task is to stay alive and kicking, our challenge is to
> be ahead of our time and the rest of the pack.
>
> And that is the first point I would like to make:  If it wasn't
> for the bikeshed it would produce, I would like to propose
> that starting right after then 5.0 branch, we rename our
> HEAD revision from "-current" to "-future".
>
> What goes in in current is by nature, and our release cycle, one
> to two years ahead of our main userbase.  We should have in -current
> what they will be asking for 12 months down the road.

As a simple user and already busy sysadmin this is good to hear. It
really is nice to know that there are really smart folks out there
expending lots of their own making FreeBSD an even better OS than it
already is.

> And that brings me to the next point I want to make:
>
> It worries me however, to realize how tough an ass-hole I have
> had to be, in order to get to stick to the principle of doing
> things right, rather than "just hack it in".
>
> The best way to destroy FreeBSD in the long term, is to let our
> infrastructure rot.

I certainly agree with the above point. I'm mainly just a lurker here,
but I've been watching the little battles being fought here and there,
each of us trying to steer FreeBSD towards our own ideals. However GEOM
seems to be regarded generally as right thing to do. For all of
Poul-Hennings hard work I personally would like to congratulate him. He
certainly is braver than me asking smart hackers world wide to modify
their code to suit. However I have the following thing to say in this
regard. The thing that first struck me about FreeBSD and the thing that
has kept me using FreeBSD is the generally complete thinking about
pieces of code. FreeBSD seems to me to be more well-balanced, cleaner
and faster than other OSs other there. And it must be due to core
infrustructure like this that helps keep it that way. Hence all I can
really do is to implore the rest of the developers out there to consider
the above and to help keep FreeBSD, mean, lean and rot free? :)

> Finally, on a personal note Peters commitstats say I have been
> committing to the kernel on average every 16 hours for the last
> year.  It feels that way too.

Once again, my thanks to phk and the rest of the FreeBSD hackers out
there for all their hard work.

> And now is the time for me to shut up, and for time and practical
> experience will have to judge if I delivered on the promises I made
> along the way.
>
> Thanks for listening,

Always, it's always amazing what you can learn. Like who is Zilog Zeus?
:)

=09- byron


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