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Date:      Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:07:12 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: gvinum remains broken in 5.3-RELEASE?
Message-ID:  <20041107013712.GS24507@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <418D7457.1040806@freebsd.org>
References:  <200411061126.23666.msch@snafu.de> <20041106152125.GC80167@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200411061803.21539.msch@snafu.de> <20041106173913.GA80837@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20041107003413.GQ24507@wantadilla.lemis.com> <418D7457.1040806@freebsd.org>

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On Saturday,  6 November 2004 at 18:03:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Saturday,  6 November 2004 at 18:39:13 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:03:20PM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette wrote..
>>>
>>>> Hello Wilko,
>>>>
>>>> Am Samstag, 6. November 2004 16:21 schrieb Wilko Bulte:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 11:26:16AM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette
>>>>> wrote..
>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot imagine to deliver/sell CDs with 5.3-RELEASE on it with a
>>>>>> broken gvinum RAID5 where the fix is available for (roughly) 2
>>>>>> weeks now.
>>>>>
>>>>> You obviously have NO idea what it means to build releases for
>>>>> all the architectures etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> My apologies if I made you upset...
>>>
>>> Oh, not upset.  Problem is that there are most likely lots of other
>>> bugs still in 5.3-R.
>>>
>>> Thing is, at some point we just need to call it a day and put the
>>> generated bits on the ftp-servers.  Otherwise there would never
>>> be a RELEASE..
>>
>> I can appreciate that the leadup to 5.3-RELEASE has been painful, but
>> what's the purpose of a release which doesn't work?  For a large
>> number of Vinum users, 5.3 will be a release to avoid.
>
> Lukas and I discussed this extensively, and the decision was agreed
> upon.

No question: to clarify, you and I also discussed the matter and
agreed on this course of action..  Unfortunately, the end users may
disagree with all of us.  As I said, the decision wasn't easy.

Greg
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