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Date:      Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:41:31 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        shimon@simon-shapiro.org
Cc:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Yest one more: devel/crosssco 
Message-ID:  <6447.891387691@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:39:39 PST." <XFMail.980331153939.shimon@simon-shapiro.org> 

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> My apologies.  I thought I said I did.  The re-install did not happen just
> a moment before building the ports, but a while ago.  9-Dec-1997 to be
> exact.  The objection I have is to doing this re-install on a regular basis.
> Too expensive, too slow, too disruptice, and too dangerous.

But for the case of -current, which is a moving target, also too necessary.
Again, stay up to date or get out of the business of testing -current.
It's very very simple. :-)

> BTW, where did you get the idea sendero is a 2.2-3.0 upgrade?

Probably about the time that I suggested a 3.0 install and you pushed
back, leading me to believe that you didn't want to reinstall the box
and hadn't at any recent point.  Since you say your last install is
from December 9th, that's also reasonably true even if not 2.2.x. :-)

> I am not attacking the ports concept, nor mechanism.   Actually, I am not
> attacking anyone or anything.  I just find, in certain directories, certain
> packages that barf.

And again, simply saying "they barf" is not what's needed here -
simply identifying build failures in a 1300 port collection now
entails too much work being displaced onto someone else's shoulders to
constitute any reasonable attempt at load-sharing.  What we need these
days are much more precise "it failed _because_ ..." reports if it's
your goal to actually accomplish anything through such testing.

					Jordan

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