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Date:      Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:00 +0200
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Ben Kaduk <minimarmot@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Bruce Cran <brucec@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r218953 - stable/8/usr.sbin/sysinstall
Message-ID:  <20110222212600.GG78089@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik%2B74Gn2DBBXuwQRaJ2tmEcLWAOkYxeq7NDOgdN@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201102221738.p1MHchsd016185@svn.freebsd.org> <AANLkTik%2B74Gn2DBBXuwQRaJ2tmEcLWAOkYxeq7NDOgdN@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:06:38PM -0500, Ben Kaduk wrote:
> [replying to the MFC that triggered the connection]
>=20
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Bruce Cran <brucec@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > Author: brucec
> > Date: Tue Feb 22 17:38:43 2011
> > New Revision: 218953
> > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/218953
> >
> > Log:
> > =9AMFC r218840:
> >
> > =9ARemove the quotas option from the Startup Services menu.
> > =9AGENERIC has no support for quotas so this option has no effect.
>=20
> Do you know why GENERIC does not have quota support enabled?  I note
> that the Debian/kFreeBSD folk have enabled quota support for the
> kernel they ship:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D608995
>=20
> In that report, emaste@ is quoted as saying:
> > If you mean "kFreeBSD should ship with a quota-enabled kernel" then I'd
> > say go for it.  The reason we don't have it on in upstream FreeBSD is
> > largely historical; enabling quotas used to require additional locking
> > that caused performance and other issues.  The additional locking is now
> > not required, and it's just that nobody has stepped in to turn them on.
>=20
> If you believe everything you read on the internet, "In order to
> achieve a modern operating system, the quota support should be active
> by default, not achieved only after compilation of a custom kernel."
>=20
> Is there more to "stepping in and turning them on" than just the
> one-line change?

I promise to enable UFS quotas in GENERIC in one week unless anybody objects
now.

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