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Date:      Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:00:47 -0600 (CST)
From:      James Wyatt <jwyatt@rwsystems.net>
To:        opentrax@email.com
Cc:        fschapachnik@vianetworks.com.ar, kris@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Proposed modification to ftpd
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10012311917570.88578-100000@bsdie.rwsystems.net>
In-Reply-To: <200012312351.PAA01718@spammie.svbug.com>

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On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 opentrax@email.com wrote:
> On 29 Dec, Fernando Schapachnik wrote:
> > En un mensaje anterior, Kris Kennaway escribi=F3:
> > -- Start of PGP signed section.
> >> On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:29:45PM -0300, Fernando Schapachnik wrote:
> >> > Hello:
> >> > =09I just submitted PR bin/23944, which contains a patch against
> >> > 4.2R ftpd to add the following funcionality to chrooted users: The
> >> > user's home dir is splitted by the first '/./'. The first part is
> >> > used to chroot, and the second to chdir (eg,
> >> > '/usr/local/www/data/site/./htdocs', means chroot to
> >> > /usr/local/www/data/site, and then chdir to htdocs).
> >>=20
> >> Ugh, that's ugly syntax.
> >=20
> > Maybe, but that's how wu-ftpd does it. The objetive is to simplify
> > migration from it. Anyway, this is a feature that stock FreeBSD ftpd
> > does not have and is very usefull if you are doing virtual hosting.
> >=20
> Adding a feature is not always a good thing.
> As I recall, Wu-ftp is one of those buggy version of ftpd.
> If people want this feature that wu-ftp has, then they
> should use wu-ftp. Adding this, and possibly bugs, to
> ftp does not make sense.

Did I miss something? Adding *any* feature can possibly add bugs, right? I
don't see where adding the wu-ftpd login-dir syntax would add "wu-ftpd
style bugs". We aren't using their source, right? They do not have the
tools like snprintf() and friends that we can use to get this right.

FWIW, I run both FreeBSD and wu-ftpd FTP servers and would *really* like
to see the above feature included. While I agree the syntax is a hack, it
and things like internal-ls reduce the reliance of the FreeBSD community
upon wu-ftpd and improve our lot. Fewer cracked FreeBSD systems is good.
--
James Wyatt, R/WSystems, We are but patterns in the entropy of the cosmos



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