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Date:      Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:40:10 +0200 (CEST)
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= <Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no>
To:        Harald Schmalzbauer <h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de>
Cc:        meyser@xenet.de, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Subject:   Re: How to submit new Ports
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408071738490.64214@mail.fig.ol.no>
In-Reply-To: <53E39CEE.9040507@omnilan.de>
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:36+0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:

>  Bezüglich Michelle Sullivan's Nachricht vom 06.08.2014 13:27 (localtime):
> > ?
> >>> P.S. I don`t want to create an bugzilla account.
> >>>     
> >> ?
> > Further all you need to do is set a password..  and as Koobs said,
> > reports are a higher quality.  Personally I started submitting pr's just
> > before the change to bugzilla, and I find the bugzilla:
> >
> > 1/ Easier to report (click the right buttons, add a subject, add a
> > patch/attachment, submit)
> > 2/ Easier to reply/update - you can add comments new attachments at any
> > time without any hassle
> > 3/ You get faster responses from the admins/commiters/testers.
> >
> > All in all personally I think the move to bugzilla was a good move for all.
> 
> Unfortunately I can't share your experience.
> Any time I log in, having my e-mail address auto-filled into 'requester'
> and 'requestee', result is -> "No requests."
> Which isn't true of course. I have to search for "samba41" e.g., to find
> my own submission.
> 
> The response time is in no way related to the kind of bug tracking
> system, at least not if it's about gnats vs. bugzilla. In my example
> case, response or any other form of activity is lagging more than what I
> was used to with gnats.
> 
> My personal experience is, that in the last decade, not much has
> changed, since I found bugzilla to be one of the most inconvenient bug
> tracking systems out there in the early/mid 2000s (when my choice for
> various projects over decent time was "doublechocolate" :-)
> 
> 'send-pr' encouraged/admonished/forced admins to deploy sensible
> mailhubs (internal DNS RRs) and gateway-masquerading. I've never seen
> that beeing wasted effort ? it's always been beneficial for the whole
> infratructure and the admins' skills :-)
> 
> If you once read send-pr and submitted your first PR, it was easy and
> clear how to fill out subsequent PRs. In my opinion, much more clearly
> than with bugzilla, where I have to rethink all the bells and whistles
> each time

> (btw, what does 'triage' mean?!?).

Another word for sorting. Triage is typically a medical word, sorting 
the wounded.

> I haven't had to look into bug tracking systems for some years, but
> since I was now urged to deal with bugzilla, I fear this choice was one
> of the quick ones.
> 
> But maybe the developers profit from the change.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Harry

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014, Zoran Kolic wrote:

> Problem again. I upgraded to 9.3 and upgraded
> packages using pkg upgrade -f. All went fine,
> except I cannot run X.
> Here is the log:
>
> _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
> _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/system:0
> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
>
> X.Org X Server 1.7.7

There is a separate repository for the newer Xorg.  See
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2014-July/001570.html



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