Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:59:06 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> To: <des@des.no> Cc: Rob <bitabyss@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Chat <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>, "Tedm@Toybox. Placo. Com" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, Andrew Falanga <af300wsm@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use Message-ID: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKCELOIOAC.davids@webmaster.com> In-Reply-To: <868x3ti5ud.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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> "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> writes: > > More likely, Microsoft was afraid that a portable browser could=20 > > become the > > platform of the future, making the operating system no longer=20 > > particularly > > important. =20 > No. At the time (1995), Microsoft had no clue about what the Internet > was and how important it would become. That was the year they = launched > their own dialup service modeled after AOL, and the year _The Road > Ahead_, in which Bill Gates's ghost writer predicted that MSN would > become the dominant computer network, was released (read the original, > not the later revised edition which papered over the worst blunders). > Microsoft expected to end up in control of client, network and = content. > It wasn't until 1996 that they did an about-face and bet, if not the > farm, then at least a barn or two on the Internet. So you're saying that long before Microsoft saw any importance to the = Internet, they felt that it was important to give away IE so they could = extort money from companies like Verisign to get their keys included? If = you don't see the Internet and ecommerce as important, why would you = think anyone would pay millions of dollars to get their key in? In any event, your argument is contradicted by the historical record, = from US v. Microsoft: ""Certain statements of Microsoft executives proffered by plaintiffs = indicate that the company recognized the impending danger. For example, = Microsoft CEO Bill Gates stated that the Netscape/Java combination = threatens to "commoditize" the operating system. See B. Gates 5/26/95 = e-mail (PI Ex. 2). Following a 1997 meeting with Mr. Gates, Microsoft's = Ben Slivka described Java as "the biggest threat to Microsoft" and wrote = to Mr. Gates that "clearly the work the Java team is doing has hit a raw = nerve with you." SJ Opp'n Ex. 60. And in an essay posted on Microsoft's = Web site, Mr. Gates recognized the potential of Netscape's browser to = "become a de facto platform for software development, ultimately = replacing Windows as the mainstream set of software standards." States' = PI Ex. 3. Other Microsoft executives recognized browsers as "alternative = platform[s] to Windows," B. Silverberg Internet Platforms & Tools Div. = Mtg. Agenda (emphasis in original) (PI Ex. 33), that might eventually = "obsolete" Windows. B. Chase 4/4/97 e-mail (PI Ex. 15). One Vice = President warned that "[t]he situation is threatening our operating = systems and desktop applications share at a fundamental level," and = declared: "Netscape pollution must be eradicated." J. Raikes 8/13/96 = memo (PI Ex. 34)."" DS
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