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Date:      Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:15:42 -0600
From:      Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com>
To:        dmaddox@scsn.net
Cc:        John Kelly <jak@cetlink.net>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 16650 Support(?) 
Message-ID:  <199801120416.WAA24067@kai.nectar.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980111211328.42326@scsn.net> 
References:  <19980111150619.48677@scsn.net> <34b95e60.140553@mail.cetlink.net> <34B957B6.AEC4CDAF@scsn.net> <34bf6bef.3609890@mail.cetlink.net> <19980111194120.34679@scsn.net> <34c17b19.7493033@mail.cetlink.net> <19980111203118.15860@scsn.net> <34c48361.9613962@mail.cetlink.net> <19980111211328.42326@scsn.net>

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Just a guess, try using PAP for authentication instead of 
a "chat script" or manually logging in ... 

... the BitSURFR is not only translating from PPP to MPP, but 
also from Async framing to Sync framing ...

V.120 also adapts Async to Sync.

Jacques Vidrine <n@nectar.com>

On 11 January 1998 at 21:13, dmaddox@scsn.net (Donald J. Maddox) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 02:53:14AM +0000, John Kelly wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:31:18 -0500, dmaddox@scsn.net (Donald J.
> > Maddox) wrote:
> > 
> > >> It all makes sense when you see the baud rate table for 4x vs. 1x.
> > >
> > >    Yeah, that's exactly it.  I finally figured this out just moments
> > >before I got this message.  My ISDN modem is a Motorola BitSURFR Pro EZ,
> > >and it works pretty much exactly like your description of the 3COM...
> > >Have you figured out a way to use both B channels under BSD?
> > 
> > That's easy because it's transparent to FreeBSD.
> > 
> > An AT command of S80=1 to the 3Com tells it to make a bonded PPP
> > Multilink call.  The 3Com and the ISP's Portmaster do the rest.  Once
> > both channels are up, the 3Com logically bonds them and sends a single
> > PPP data stream to FreeBSD.
> > 
> > I expect the Bitsurfer has an AT command which does the same.
> 
> Yeah, it would seem that way :-)  Actually, the BitSURFR does have such
> an AT command...  But...
> 
> The AT command to use both B channels is 'AT@B0=2' on the BitSURFR; however,
> it has 3 different rate adaption protocols: V.120, AIMux, and PPP.  If I
> use V.120, everything works great, but, unfortunately, V.120 does not support
> channel bonding.  If I use PPP (which _does_ support channel bonding, and
> which works great under W95 dial-up networking), the modem connects fine,
> but instead of a login prompt, I just get garbage characters from the
> modem.  I know the problem is something simple that I am just not quite
> grasping, since W95 dial-up networking seems to be able to log me into
> my ISP just fine with PPP rate adaption protocol.  In short, I cannot get
> a working chat script to log me into my  ISP if I select PPP protocol on
> the modem.  Does any of this make any sense to you? (I hope so)



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