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Date:      Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:27:10 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc:        ftrk <ftrk@uaf.edu>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: which *BSD to choose?
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.21.0107051026530.28766-100000@rac5.wam.umd.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20010705104351.B2044@hades.hell.gr>

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The ethernet card isn't supported by FreeBSD-STABLE... no cardbus cards
are.

Ken

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> Hello Raj,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:28:24PM -0800, ftrk wrote:
> > Dear all,
> 
> > I haven't used *BSD at all, but been using UNIX(Solaris) and LINUX
> > for awhile.
> 
> Linux is ok, Solaris is also nice but it's not free in the manner of
> Open Source operating systems like Linux or the BSD's.  It's a nice
> thing that you are thinking of 'trying BSD'.  You should go ahead and
> try it :)  Who knows, you might like it better than something else
> that you have seen until now.
> 
> > I would like to play with it on my laptop which is kinda old, but I
> > was wondering about drivers for display chipsets etc:
> > Intel PIII Processor
> > ATi Rage 128 display chipset(14" SXGA display)
> > Xircom 10/100 cardbus PCMCIA card
> > Internal Lucent Gold v50 modem( I am sure this wouldn't be supported:( )
> 
> Since, you have posted this on a FreeBSD list, I'm assuming here that
> you are thinking of trying FreeBSD on that laptop.
> 
> o   Intel PIII Processor
> 
>     The processor you have is supported, yes.
> 
> o   ATi Rage 128 display chipset (14" SVGA display)
> 
>     The default FreeBSD environment (unless you install some version
>     of X11, to provide you with a graphical interface) uses an 80x25
>     text-mode console.  This is supported by ALL modern VGA-compatible
>     display adapters, so you should not worry if FreeBSD will be able
>     to 'display' its default console mode.
> 
>     When it comes to X11 and GUI programs, I think that ATi Rage is
>     supported by X11, but since I'm not sure I will not say 'yes' or
>     'no'.  Read the XFree86 documentation and release notes at
>     www.xfree86.org to see is Rage128 is supported by some version of
>     X11 and which version is that.
> 
> o   Ximrom 10/100 cardbus PCMCIA card
> 
>     I don't know :-/
> 
> o   Internal Lucent Gold v50 modem
> 
>     This is a Winmodem IIRC.  It will not work with FreeBSD, if that
>     is true.  Sorry 'bout that.  You'll probably have to find some
>     other modem to use with FreeBSD.
> 
> > I would definitely like to use and support FreeBSD. However I am
> > unable to make up my mind as to which one will suit me and an
> > assessment of the three flavours.
> 
> The BSD operating systems are not `FreeBSD flavors'.  Therefore there
> are not many 'flavours'.  There is only one FreeBSD, with that
> wonderful and fulfilling cocoa-bean-wrapped-in-chocolate taste, that
> makes it our favorite for years and years.
> 
> Seriously now, you can check all of them and see which you like best.
> They all (they referring to FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD) have their
> advantages and good points, their disadvantages and limitations, their
> beautiful and ugly parts, etc.  For me, when I chose which one to
> install one of the BSD's, it was ease of installation that made me
> decide to stick with FreeBSD.  For you, it might be the way packages
> are organized.  For somebody else, it is the security consiousness of
> the developers.  The ultimate choise is upon you.  Just try them all
> > and see which one fits your style/taste/personality.
> 
> > Would you have any pointers as to where I can find some info?
> 
> The web sites of all BSD operating systems usually include lots of
> documentation.  You will find the articles, tutorials, and books
> available at www.freebsd.org to be very helpful, if you are looking
> for information on what FreeBSD can do for you, and how things can be
> done.  A visit at www.netbsd.org and www.openbsd.org will also give
> you a chance to see what the other BSD Unixes support, what programs
> are available for each one of them, what platforms (hardware) they run
> on, how to obtain and/or install them, etc.
> 
> > I am also interested in knowing the packages, like compilers(like
> > gcc, g77, perl) etc.
> 
> FreeBSD comes bundled with source for everything (well, almost
> everything).  Among the programs installed are:
> 
>     o	BIND, the name-server software that dominates the Internet.
> 
>     o	Sendmail, the popular MTA (mail transfer agent).
> 
>     o	GZIP and BZIP2, compression tools.
> 
>     o	CVS, the concurrent version system.
> 
>     o	The GNU C Compiler.
> 
>     o	IPFW and IPFILTER firewalls.
> 
>     o	Support for DHCP with isc-dhcp/
> 
>     o	Perl version 5
> 
>     o	Lots of other programs and tools that I forgot to mention.
> 
> >From the Ports system, whose files are in /usr/ports, you can install
> more than 5,000 other software packages.  You can read more about
> ports, at <URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports.html >.
> 
> Lots of other useful documents can be found at www.freebsd.org
> explaining a lot of things.  See the site for details.
> 
> > Also does this come with any crypto software?
> 
> Yes, FreeBSD has support for various ways to use cryptography and
> related tools.  What is it that you are specifically interested in?
> 
> > Pardon my ignorance, I tried to look around, but couldn't find info
> > on compilers etc..
> 
> Well, look at the site.
> You'll find lots and lots of documentation to get you started and
> going a long way, there.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> I hope I've helped a bit.
> 
> -giorgos
> 
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