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Date:      Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:33:30 +0000
From:      "Ian Kallen" <ian@gamespot.com>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: The Old New Disk Question
Message-ID:  <199608121828.SAA06351@gamespot.com>

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I spent hours just trying to get myself to a point where I had proper 
geometry set up and could newfs the desired partitions.  I can't 
speak authoritatively but I can offer my experience, fwiw.

First of all, arm yourself with the man pages for fdisk & disklabel.  
Then get Greg Leahy's postscript document on it at
ftp://freefall.freebsd.org/pub/incoming/disks.ps.gz
And get ready for some grief, this whole experience made me long for 
the format utility that comes with Solaris -- yes, Solaris's format 
utility is actually not bad: if it does'nt know the drive geometry, it offers 
you a menu item to ask you about the disk geometry which you can read 
off of the specs.  Comparitively very user friendly.

My effort involved setting up a Seagate SCSI 2 gig baracuda.  I ended 
up using the DOS fdisk to really read the geometry, took notes on 
what my numbers "should" be and then booted fbsd and used my notes to 
correct it's misunderstanding of the drive's layout in fbsd's fdisk.  
Then used "disklabel sd1 auto" -- I had to use "disklabel -e sd1" to 
make corrections -- once everything was cogently layed out in the 
disklabel,   "newfs -d0 /dev/rsd1d" (where d is the partition on sd1 
that I wanted a filesystem created on...) and so forth for any other 
partitions defined in the disklabel.  Changes made to the fstab and 
voila: I was done.

<huff>
This process really really ought to be simplified and better 
documented.  A unified fdisk and disklabel utility is sorely needed, not 
sysinstall, which seems to insist that you have mount points you don't 
need and wants to newfs your existing filesystems.  This issue of 
disk management is a real barrier for folks new to fbsd -- one would 
want disk swapping and set-up to be fast and easy but if one must 
"work around" fdisk and disklabel's deficiencies everytime a new 
filesystem needs to be added, freeBSD is going to scare a lot of 
people over to another OS.  Actually, I don't know if Linux offers a 
credible alternative, I played around with it at home in the past but 
never needed to add disks.  I heard they adopted the net/2 tcp-ip 
code since then though so they can't be all bad ;)
</huff>

> From:          zeeb@digitaladvantage.net (Russ Panula)
> To:            Mike <flaq@synwork.com>
> Cc:            questions@FreeBSD.org
> Subject:       Re: The Old New Disk Question
> Date:          Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:09:19 -0600
> Organization:  Digital Advantage Corporation

> On Sun, 11 Aug 1996 14:21:07 -0500 (CDT), you wrote:
> 
> >I have just spent the past three hours searching the archives for a step
> >by step explanation of how to add a new hard drive.  I want to add a
> >fourth drive to my box.  I saw this question asked MANY times in the
> >archives, but replies were few and far between.  
> >
> >I tried using /stand/sysinstall and it would core on me everytime I tried
> >to create the newfs.
> >
> >TIA
> >
> 
> 
> I've had the core dump problem with sysinstall too..  I think it has
> something to do with an invalid partition table (no magic ;-).  Try
> booting with a DOS disk, running fdisk, creating a partition on the
> disk, then boot into FBSD and see if you can proceed from there.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
Ian Kallen                           ian@gamespot.com
     Director of Technology & Web Administration
            http://www.gamespot.com



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