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Date:      Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:26:51 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, gahr@gahr.ch, ume@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [patch] enhance powerd(8) to handle max temperature
Message-ID:  <46B14EFB.6010207@u.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20070801.211718.1683324313.imp@bsdimp.com>
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M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <46AE8F78.1060203@root.org>
>             Nate Lawson <nate@root.org> writes:
> : Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
> : >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:31:33 +0200
> : >>>>>> Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch> said:
> : > gahr> My patch is really just a first draft that I wrote in order to have
> : > gahr> feedbacks on the general idea to implement a temperature controlling
> : > gahr> system inside powerd, and doesn't implement hysteresis as you noted, and
> : > gahr> your feedback is that it's not a good idea, which I respect.
> : > 
> : > It is rather backward, IMHO.  I did implement a passive cooling
> : > feature as an enhancement of powerd(8) like you did, during initial
> : > phases.  Then, I implemented it in our kernel as a result.
> : 
> : I'll take a look at your patch.  Umemoto-san is right in that you really
> : want the kernel to control cooling.  What happens if powerd dies/hangs
> : and your system burns up?  Passive cooling is often a last resort to
> : keep the system from overheating.
>
> I keep getting the system shutting down on my HP by FreeBSD because
> the temperature exceeds the _CRT value.  Maybe there's something wrong
> with my values, since it happens a lot:
>
> hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
> hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
> hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 0.0C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 94.0C
> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 40.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
>
> Note: temperature is always 0.0C.
>
> What can I do to help my situation, if I really want the kernel doing
> the cooling?
>
> Warner
>   

Wow, something's really wrong with those calculated temperatures. At 
that value most of the plastic and weaker circuitry should have fused 
together =\.
-Garrett



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