Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:57:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Caldwell <caldwelljohn44@yahoo.com> To: "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" <freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Waiting for sound system to respond Message-ID: <1358963845.36175.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <op.wrcw4jv4uwjkcr@freebsd> References: <1358923550.68557.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <op.wrcw4jv4uwjkcr@freebsd>
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=0A=0AFrom: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com>=0A=0ADid you test it= without pulseaudio? I'm a FreeBSD novice, but experienced with audio on Li= nux and pulseaudio is known to cause trouble like this.=0A_________________= ______________________________=0A=0AI'm sorry I'm new to FreeBSD desktop bu= t how do I disable pulseaudio?=A0 I tried the following:=0A=0A1. tried to p= kg_delete pulseaudio but it said a few packaged depends on it.=A0 Then I we= nt through each of these packages, did "make config" to make sure any pulse= audio option is unchecked, then make; make deinstall; make reinstall it.=A0= These packages include:=0A=A0=0Agnome2=0Agnome-appletes=0Agnome-control-ce= nter=0Agnome-media=0Agnome-session=0Agnome-settings-daemon=0Adeskbar-applet= =0Aetc=0A=0Apulseaudio still can't be deleted after that.=A0 I rebooted any= way but didn't notice any difference regarding the problem.=A0 =0A=0ABy the= way, from the very beginning up to now, the audio largely functions all th= e time, for example, I can watch some youtube videos (non-flash ones) with = perfect sound, and I can control its volume by the volume control under the= youtube video.=A0 I just can't control volume using the hardware buttons a= nd the controls offered by the gnome desktop utilities.=A0 =0A=0A2. I tried= to replace alsa with oss, but now alsa is built into the kernel so when tr= ying to load oss it says:=0A=0Akernel: osscore: Open Sound System conflicts= with FreeBSD driver=0Akernel: osscore: Please remove sound(4) from kernel = or unload it=0A=0ASomeone recommended recompling kernel in order to use oss= , but how do you deal with security update?=A0 Right now I only put "freebs= d-update fetch install" in cron job.=A0 I'm not sure how to do that with cu= stom kernel.=0A From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 23 18:15:33 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60999F08 for <freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org>; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3CD648 for <freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org>; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.51] by nm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 18:14:25 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.67] by tm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 18:13:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 18:13:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358964836; bh=HtVWzsjucHSChRCib6wY4EPvesNdfy8CnQpLg8VaUpw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=ale0wsDhjiknCKeTyGlX8EcaJP5AJkLWor7ntJEngU9eBVRF6+uZhq3HcExBF7/3gINDBELlhzTyoVxQeuiaDTApHDLvO7HegldBQrGJiyiDf+OJ+zCom1OpfiL3a3ObIQlDAmAhLPYKLJ4DES7pU3IkuGjhD0zBhYIgcAczbjI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 712093.14678.bm@smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: DuGa9NYVM1nFrtNV5zJ4H6atoeVzYT8Q.8EG4TR0W4VS7wj PTBjeBLNaWnZRVVzp4JCo1_ni0d80ycq_WXrsQHBbNBD4BRtjCAwamcgKarS 7o_h1d5rrPU4Vo3u__tNeKKeTDRKt8fFPd_.N8smNOqk.V6HK5l_dca96dE7 4FYZCqPXnbkB3OfnO7TZ4askXTze09qvycu6kS9nXW8g8M0M2uEfmSP0XZJd BRe.owRXCuWgp9JNl8hpxDp.U.cFFuS2jlhcSjkABAK3_fUiqXiJKnm4kDIr lA3Ui_5qEY4DCzTkn9rHgfDezvaQQABbIC0FE9hIK4NoFDITIlDg9aaDgiK8 KvwL8zLt8JL._oVd9_HKXF8dUPEtYXHlP2ZrfmGN.IxN9qNcsd2OzoPT0onX bmlhSFhgTNGrEF5iTATu81s6xi.z4bUAd0o4lUglJkbAH X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@85.182.21.154 with login) by smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2013 10:13:56 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" <freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Waiting for sound system to respond References: <1358923550.68557.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <op.wrcw4jv4uwjkcr@freebsd> <1358963845.36175.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:13:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> Message-ID: <op.wrdl9hiauwjkcr@freebsd> In-Reply-To: <1358963845.36175.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions <freebsd-multimedia.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-multimedia>, <mailto:freebsd-multimedia-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-multimedia-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia>, <mailto:freebsd-multimedia-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:15:33 -0000 On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:57:25 +0100, John Caldwell <caldwelljohn44@yahoo.com> wrote: > gnome-settings-daemon Rebuild gnome-settings-daemon and disable pulseaudio. Theoretically it's possible to disable pulseaudio, but this doesn't work for all versions as expected. On Linux it's enough to build a dummy package, that fakes to provide PA, this doesn't cause issues, as long as libpulse(audio) or what ever it's named, is installed. However, on Linux (by upstream) only gnome-settings-daemon has the hard dependency to PA. It might be different for FreeBSD, I'm a newbie for BSD myself. I'm using Xfce4, but have GNOME installed too, since there were obscure dependencies, seemingly not from upstream, but for FreeBSD. I didn't experienced this on Linux. I don't have PA installed. $ pkg_info | grep pulseaudio $ pkg_info | grep gnome-settings-daemon gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1_4 GNOME 2 settings daemon I suspect you need to rebuild all the listed dependencies. I only can speak for Linux (and upstream), theoretically and on Linux in reality you only need to rebuild gnome-settings-daemon, or to fake that the dependency is fulfilled. Regards, Ralf
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