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Date:      Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Brian Whalen <bri@sonicboom.org>
To:        Matthew Graybosch <matthew@starbreaker.net>
Cc:        Stanley Hopcroft <Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.gov.au>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: How does FreeBSD make a difference in a government context ?
Message-ID:  <20010919205235.J10874-100000@cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010919210142.7fcc9d8b.matthew@starbreaker.net>

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Thought of pointing out the myriad of recent security items related to
windoze?  Boss perhaps wants toeither not allow you to use something
he/she doesn't understand, or install pc anywhere on it??

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Matthew Graybosch wrote:

> Sorry, I just got word from my boss that he INSISTED that I buy a
> copy of Windows XP professional and use it on my home box instead
> of FreeBSD. I'm still a little riled.
>
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:16:29 +1000
> Stanley Hopcroft <Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.gov.au> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
> >
> > I am writing to ask your advice about demonstrating the value
> > of FreeBSD servers (DDNS, DHCP, routers, Samba) in a 'public
> > service'/'Government context'.
>
> <joke>
> Mr. Hopcroft, I hate to say it, but you're dealing with the
> wilfully ignorant. No LART is potent enough to deal with such
> people. In a similar situation, a close friend of mine told her
> employers that if they dumped Linux for Win2K, she would quit and
> burn the network docs on her way out.
>
> They switched. She quit. The network docs made great kindling
> when we had a barbecue to celebrate.
>
> 2 weeks later they called, begging her to come back and put
> everything back the way it used to be. She told them to suffer
> the consequences of their idiocy, and expressed a desire to
> attend their funerals.
>
> She's a hell of a woman -- I'll have to marry her someday.
> </joke>
>
> All I can suggest is that you drown them in favorable numbers.
> Cost benefit analyses, Total Cost of Ownership, and above all
> BENCHMARKS. Luser managers dealing with tech seem to treat
> benchmarks like some kind of holy Revelation. Make sure the
> benchmarks favor your position, of course. Drown them in
> propaganda, bury them up to their necks in the shit.
>
> Lacking that, you can always get somebody to infect the MS boxen
> with the Nimda and Code Red virii. I hear there's also a Code
> Blue virus going around. Tell the managers that the virus problem
> will continue to get worse, rendering any MS box utterly
> 99.99999% useless.
> ******
> Matthew Graybosch [matthew@starbreaker.net]
> http://www.starbreaker.net :: where dreams and reality collide
> "Screw Sartre. Hell isn't other people. Hell is debugging other
> people's code."
>
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