Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:47:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Beattie <beattie@aracnet.com> To: "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@physics.purdue.edu> Cc: Greg Black <gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Entombing for FreeBSD Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9904161333210.22567-100000@shell2.aracnet.com> In-Reply-To: <19990416150649.A1060@ohm.physics.purdue.edu>
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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, C. Stephen Gunn wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 09:37:33PM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > > > If we're restricting this to restoring lost files, I can't > > remember the last time I did that either. It was certainly more > > than 15 years ago. I don't use entombing. Can't see the point. > > It's not the last time _you_ had to restore a file that's the issue. > If you've not had to do it for 15 years, entombing probably isn't > for you. > > When was the last time you took care of 500+ users on a single > machine. Users delete files. Users clobber files. Users intentionally > make changes to files and then don't want them tomorrow. > > We have _serious_ users around here with serious needs. We have > all of our important data on hardware RAID 5, and we still do > nightly backups to DLT. DLT's are fast, but pulling one file off > tape (which would happen) can take 45 minutes to an hour, even with > good tools like Amanda. > I am philosophically opposed to this type of feature, I believe it promotes slovenly work habits. On the other hand as a practical matter it would probably save a lot of time, when dealing with non-professionals. I would also agree that libc hacking is a poor route. I'm waiting until secondary storage becomes compact and cheap so that we can keep all versions of all files indefinitely :) I predict that if *BSD and Linux implement this feature, MS will introduce a similar feature within 6mos and announce it as a new MS inovation, under development for 15 years, unavailable on any other OS. Brian Beattie | The only problem with beattie@aracnet.com | winning the rat race ... www.aracnet.com/~beattie | in the end you're still a rat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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