Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:25:04 -0500 From: Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org> To: "Justin L. Boss" <jlboss@yahoo.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: NVIDIA 3D FreeBSD Drivers Message-ID: <20020303162504.872E8BA03@i8k.babbleon.org> In-Reply-To: <200203031541.g23Ff7M07946@smtp1.domainit.com> References: <20020303024505.6646337B400@hub.freebsd.org> <20020303011935.S12253@rain.macguire.net> <200203031541.g23Ff7M07946@smtp1.domainit.com>
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I don't think I'm missing your point, I just disagree with it. Instead of fighting for FreeBSD I'd rather fight for open source software, and the nvidia Linux "solution" is to include Linux in their closed-source world. You want them to include FreeBSD in their closed-source world as well. This seems more like betrayal to the cause than fighting for the cause to me, and I, for one, am not going to fight for that. A petition for them to release their information so that FreeBSD *and* other O/S's could take advantage of their hardware--*that*, I would support. But not this. On Saturday 02 March 2002 11:05 pm, you wrote: > You are all missing the point. This is for 3d hardware support first of > all. I'm using a G-Force2 now and it work just fine for me too, with out 3d > support. It is also about letting people know how many people use FreeBSD, > its about letting hareware and software vendors know that they need to be > writing drivers, application and games for FreeBSD because so many people > use it. I don't like linux and I do not like comparing FreeBSD and linux > because FreeBSD towering over linux in every way. But one thing I will say > is that linux users are willing to fight for linux . That may be one of the > resons why linux is more popular then FreeBSD. It sure isn't because linux > is better. Someone will say "theirs no games for FreeBSD that use 3d > acceleration yet" and I say "their won't be until it can support it". You > can't put the horse before the buggy. No one can say for sure that FreeBSD > will be around forever. I sure the FreeBSD team would say if it wasn't for > our contbution when we get the four set cd-rom for $29-$39. If we didn't > donate our money they would have to close down. I can't be sure but it > takes money to make the world go round ask Enron. And the more vendors that > support FreeBSD, the more people will use FreeBSD, the more money will come > in and the faster freeBSD will grow and the more we will benefit. I just > woke up so if this is screw up sorry but you get the just. > > On Sunday 03 March 2002 03:19 am, Benjamin Krueger wrote: > > * Brian T . Schellenberger (bts@babbleon.org) [020303 00:26]: > > > On Saturday 02 March 2002 10:09 am, Justin L. Boss wrote: > > > > I know not everone uses FreeBSD for a desktop but if you like FreeBSD > > > > and are interested in seeing it become one of the most successfully > > > > OS ever and you think you will ever use it as a desktop and like to > > > > have 3d support then take a minute and go to > > > > http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/petition.html and fill out the > > > > petition. It is your OS, fight for it. > > > > > > Why not just avoid nvidia entirely? Or fight for public release of the > > > specs instead of trying to get FreeBSD added to the list of "blessed" > > > OS's like Linux and Windows. > > > > > > Avoid proprietary solutions and venders of hardware that are unwilling > > > to work with open-source code. > > > > Unwilling, or unable? As I've heard, they will not release specs because > > they cannot release specs as per licensing contracts for their > > technology. This hardly seems like a damnable offense to me, especially > > considering it helps them build excellent hardware. > > > > As for the matter of not having support for NVidia cards under FreeBSD... > > > > [snip] > > Section "Module" > > Load "extmod" > > Load "xie" > > Load "pex5" > > Load "glx" > > Load "dri" > > Load "dbe" > > Load "record" > > Load "freetype" > > EndSection > > [snip] > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card0" > > Driver "nv" > > VendorName "NVidia" > > BoardName "GeForce2 MX" > > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > > EndSection > > [snip] > > > > My NVidia card works fine under FreeBSD for me. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) ME --> http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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