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Date:      Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:47:02 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To:        John-David Childs <jdc@nterprise.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [HomeFreeBSD / HomeBSD]
Message-ID:  <20020805154120.B16379-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
In-Reply-To: <1028570504.32491.43.camel@lohr.digitalglobe.com>

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On 5 Aug 2002, John-David Childs wrote:
> Subject: Re: Oh man I'm going to get flamed
> <torch on>

Oh, come on now - your comments were interesting and not flaming :)

I've moved this discussion/thread over to chat from questions...

> On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 17:01, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> > I've been thinking a lot about an offshoot version of FreeBSD that newbian
> > users could get from the kern.flp / mfsroot.flp process and its sysinstall...
> I've been "thinking" about it for years, too ;-)  sysinstall sucks!

What about sysinstall don't you like?  Is it lacking in one area or would
you rather do away with it entirely?  I must admit that I was very
impressed and comforted by its surprising existence when I first installed!

> > There would be a checkbox for [ ]HomeFreeBSD or [ ]HomeBSD or the like
> > (users could pay $19.95 for a CDROM and seven days of e-mail support, too).
> > Just hear me out *grin*
> > It would include the latest XFree86, KDE (or whatever most resembles the
> > familiar StartButton),
> Gnome has one too.  And you could easily change the "start button icon"
> to whatever you want.  After playing with KDE3 this weekend, I still
> think Gnome is better (it doesn't look like a 10-year old designed the desktop ;-)

I haven't tried Gnome or seen anything about it.  Somehow I got KDE 2.2.2
installed and haven't figured out how to upgrade or try any other WM :(

> >  and OpenOffice.  Out of the box.  It would include viewers and players for common media -- practically built-in to KDE and its menus -- for files of type *.pdf, *.ra, *.asx, *.swf, *.doc, *.mov, *.qt, *.mpeg, *.mpg, *.mp3 and many other popular file types.
> > I think that would be nice.

Correction - I think these or something assisting the user with these -
ought to be *necessary* and integrated into the WM :)  I can dream...

> > HomeBSD might even include a tiny, simple binary that logs into a site at
> > something like www.homebsd.org/cvsup/compare.cgi to make upgrades easier...
> > or uses cvsup's port and protocol to accomplish this.  :)
> Heck with that...to mimic something like RedHat Network Update or
> MandrakeUpdate, it should find which PACKAGES (not ports) are marked for
> security updates, and which packages are just plain newer, and offer to
> install those.

Interesting, astute comparison.

> > A fairy ghost would fly of your diskette drive and install everything for you too.
> > Not.
> I'm game.

You're game to program this occurence *grins* or to contribute to HomeBSD?

--
Peter Leftwich
President & Founder
Video2Video Services
Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
+1-413-403-9555


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