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Date:      Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:39:23 +0100
From:      Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk>
To:        User MAT <mat@blondie.ottawa.cc>
Cc:        Leif Neland <root@swimsuit.internet.dk>, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: two routers back to back: Do they need real ip-adresses?
Message-ID:  <19981114003922.D28029@skriver.dk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811132320380.17306-100000@blondie.ottawa.cc>; from User MAT on Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 11:31:12PM -0500
References:  <19981113235216.A28029@skriver.dk> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811132320380.17306-100000@blondie.ottawa.cc>

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> > Here in Denmark the national school backbone is running RFC1918
> > addresses on it's routers, no problem, as long as all hosts that need
> > Internet connectivity uses real addresses ...
> > 
> > I also know that several larger US NSP's use RFC1918 in their backbones
> 
> 	I know and it drives me nuts.  They don't block the private router
> info and packets, this causes confusion on some of my machines.
> Furthermore, there's no co-ordianation of use of private IPs so that two
> ISPs could use the same private IP their routers and have a traceroute
> report an same IP for a hop twice, doesn't that seem wrong?

It makes debug'ing more difficult, but it has it's advantages also, but
I also prefer to use assigned addresses, and this is what Tele Danmark
has chosen in it's backbone.
But it could solve Leif's problem, if Telia had accepted it, and they
didn't he told me offline.

/Jesper

-- 
Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager      
Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292)

One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them,
One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.

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