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Date:      Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:19:57 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        cjclark@home.com, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Appropriate Forum for Bug/Upgrade
Message-ID:  <19981130161957.Y431@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811300544.AAA01061@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from Crist J. Clark on Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 12:44:56AM -0500
References:  <199811300544.AAA01061@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>

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On Monday, 30 November 1998 at  0:44:56 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> What would be the best place to point out a potential upgrade idea for
> the ports mechanism?

That would be FreeBSD-ports.  But read on.

> The problem is a borderline between a bug and a
> absent feature. I think all I'm asking is for the re-wording of an
> error message.
>
> The "Problem:" I was just trying to download StarOffice to check it
> out when I got the following:
>
>> make
>>> StarOffice31-common.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
>>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/staroffice/.
> fetch: StarOffice31-common.tar.gz: Permission denied
>>> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles//.
> fetch: StarOffice31-common.tar.gz: Permission denied
>>> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
>>> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
>
> Now, my first instinct was that the 'Permission denied' messages were
> coming from the ftp sites. However, after looking at the sites, I
> realized it wasn't the problem. When I did try to download them
> manually, I figured out the problem: I hadn't su'ed to root. (Doh!) I
> must admit that this was not the first time I made this mistake either.
>
> I think that problem could be more clearly indicated to the user. The
> 'Permission denied' could mention that the permission problem was
> writing on the /users/ machine, not the ftp site. Also, what's the
> point of trying to download it twice? If it didn't work the first
> time, it ain't gonna work the second.

I suppose there's some value in this.  It's not a ports issue, though,
it's a misfeature in fetch.  ftp will tell you, for example, that you
don't have create permission in the local directory.  Try sending in a
PR.

Greg
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