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Date:      Sat, 25 May 2002 23:13:25 -0500
From:      "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
To:        "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
Cc:        <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: [Was Re: FTP sites] Can anyone else shed some light on this install problem?
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the problem is, that's not my problem. I have never had to worry about my
IPs and have been using  1.x.x.x for nearly a year now. My gateway was
installed via FTP and the card was recognized and didn't shut down, etc.
This time, however, it seems that FBSD doesn't like my NIC, which is also
weird b/c it is the same type of card I'm using in my gateway.. BTW, the 2
machines are exact clones. Read the first couple DEBUG lines..that is what
is confusing me. Does the fact that device dc0 is NOT listed in the
sysinstall devices (as a conflict or otherwise) but it is the first choice
when actually setting up the network have anything to do with this? Should I
add device dc0 to the list of devices early on? or just not choose a device
until I need to actually set the network up? The install tutoring pages
aren't clear one way or another on that.

--charlie pelletier
--litmus(mp3.com/litmus)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
To: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Was Re: FTP sites] Can anyone else shed some light on this
install problem?


> Really think you should try using 10 or 192 address space for your
> internal host[s] if you haven't already.  I don't think anybody's stack
> looks for a 1.x.x.x address locally.  Class A 1.0.0.0 is IANA
> Reserved-9, and I can't find that it's reserved for private
> networks.  If you know otherwise, I'd like the URL
> for my own education.
>
> KDK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:27 PM
> Subject: [Was Re: FTP sites] Can anyone else shed some light on this
install
> problem?
>
>
> >
> > --charlie pelletier
> > --litmus(mp3.com/litmus)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
> > To: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
> > Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: ftp sites
> >
> >
> > > You may be beyond my feeble capacity to
> > > help here.  I don't know ipf.  FTP uses either
> > > "active" or "passive" mode transfers. Most
> > > server admins prefer that the clients use passive
> > > mode, but I don't know re: /sysinstall Passive mode
> > > uses unprivileged, high[er] numbered ports, so
> > > unless your gateway box's ipf is configged to pass
> > > this properly that could be the issue.  OTOH,
> > > I've never heard anyone using 1.1 nets either,
> > > so it could be networking stuff.  The correct IPs for private
> > > nets, last I checked were class C 192.168.xxx.xxx,
> > > 10.0.xxx.xxx to 10.255.xxx.xxx, and 172.16.xxx.xxx to
> > > 172.31.xxx.xxx.  There could have been a newer RFC,
> > > but I don't know.  I guess you're finding out how much
> > > of a relative newbie I am.  If you're actually using 1.1.4.1,
> > > it does seem like there'd be some problems with routes.
> > >
> > > Net config looks like this?
> > >
> > > WAN ---  cable modem ----  FBSD nat box     ----     problem client
> > >                                          x.x.x.x?        1.1.4.1
> > > 1.1.4.33
> > >
> > > I'd think that your ISP would need to bind their IP address to
> > > the MAC address of your gateway/nat box, then you assign
> > > a 192 or 10 block address to its *internal* interface, then
> > > set up natd, etc., etc.,
> > >
> > > But, like I said, I'm no expert.  Maybe you should chill
> > > until somebody smarter comes along, though that would be
> > > difficult for me, anyway---espec. since this is a holiday weekend....
> > >
> > > KDK
> > >
> > > From: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
> > > To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ftp sites
> > >
> > >
> > > > This might  be of some help:
> > > >
> > > > DEBUG:  Generating /etc/fstab file
> > > > DEBUG: Shutdown called for network device dc0
> > > > DEBUG: ifconfig dc0 downDEBUG: Deleting default route.delete net
> default
> > > > DEBUG: ifconfig dc0 inet 1.1.4.33 netmask 255.255.255.0DEBUG: adding
> > > default
> > > > route to 1.1.4.1.add net default: gateway 1.1.4.1
> > > >
> > > > 1.1.4.33...the address i assigned the new machine
> > > > dc0..the netgear FA310
> > > > 1.1.4.1...my gateway (is also a FreeBSD box nat'd w/IPF)
> > > >
> > > > --charlie pelletier
> > > > --litmus(mp3.com/litmus)
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
> > > > To: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>;
> > > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ftp sites
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > OTOH, the "Beastie" IS there....
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you using /stand/sysinstall?  What type
> > > > > of interface / net connection do you have?
> > > > >
> > > > > KDK
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Charles Pelletier" <fozekizer@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:54 AM
> > > > > Subject: ftp sites
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > okay,
> > > > > > i've been trying for the last 2 days to install 4.5 via FTP. I
> have
> > > not
> > > > > been
> > > > > > able to gain access to any of the usual ftp mirrors. Is there a
> > > problem
> > > > or
> > > > > > is there something i'm not doing. The message everytime is that
it
> > > could
> > > > > not
> > > > > > login to whatever ftp mirror.
> > > > > > --charlie pelletier
> > > > > > --litmus(mp3.com/litmus)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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