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Date:      Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:40:06 +0200
From:      Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
To:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: soft updates performance 
Message-ID:  <E14RurO-0000Zl-00@cs.huji.ac.il>
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:44:58 -0800 (PST) .

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i've been doing some experiments with vinum, and doing a make buildworld
(with obj on the same vinum)
	without soft-updates	~ 1 hour
	with soft-updates	~ 40 minutes
which is a bit better than 3% :-)

what i can't figure out is why -j 4 didn't make any difference.
btw, this is on 4.2 stable and a PIII dual 900mHz cpu, 500MGB

danny

In message <200102110744.f1B7iwS30465@earth.backplane.com>you write:
}:OK, I'm sold on the general idea of using soft updates; but what
}:sort of performance improvements should I expect to see?
}:
}:I do a kernel compile on a freshly-rebooted box with an without
}:softupdates; without, it took 20m45s and with soft updates it
}:still took 20m10s --- this is less than 3% faster, which is
}:close to statistically insignificant.  Is this expected, or is
}:there some other factor I should look at?
}:
}:Greg
}
}    A kernel compile, like a buildworld, is more a cpu-intensive operation
}    then a disk-intensive operation, so I wouldn't expect a big improvement.
}
}    Softupdates wins big on anything that does a lot of directory 
manipulation.
}    For example, extracting a tar archive, rm -rf, news systems,
}    mail systems (to a lesser degree since they fsync() a lot anyway),
}    and general workloads.
}
}    There is no real downside, so there really isn't any reason to *not*
}    use softupdates.
}
}						-Matt
}
}
}
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