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Date:      Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:33:27 -0400 (EDT)
From:      mi@aldan.algebra.com
To:        ipthomas_77@yahoo.com
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: using ipfw's ``pipe'' to limit icmp traffic
Message-ID:  <200106071733.f57HXSW09312@misha.privatelabs.com>
In-Reply-To: <200106071614.MAA01227@scarlet.my.domain>

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On  7 Jun, Ian P. Thomas wrote:
> 	I add ICMP_BANDLIM as an option in the kernel.  It is used to
> prevent just the sort of attacks you are using your firewall for.  I have
> seen no slow down on my ping times since implementing it.

Mmmm, but will it protect the whole network, or just this machine?
Yours,

	-mi

> Ian
> 
> In the last episode, mi@aldan.algebra.com stated...
>> Trying  to protect  our network  from  ICMP-based attacks,  I added  the
>> following rules to the firewall:
>> 
>> 	pipe 1  config bw 64Kbit/s
>> 	add pipe 1  log icmp from any to any in via OIF
>> 	add allow icmp from any to any
>> 
>> 	(OIF is the Outside InterFace)
>> 
>> The assumption is, there  is not going to be _much_  of ICMP traffic, so
>> if it ever needs more than 64Kbit/s, it is an attack...
>> 
>> This  seems to  work,  but when  I  try to  ping  something outised  the
>> network, the ping  time is around 10 msec. Without  the above piping, it
>> is around 0.5 msec.  It is the bandwidth, that I'm  trying to limit, not
>> the minimum latency!
>> 
>> Even  more bizarre  is  that  the ping  times  are  _higher_ when  pings
>> originate from  the firewall itself,  compared to those,  that originate
>> from inside the firewalled network...
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
>> 
>> 	-mi



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